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Cheney Speech: News Needs to Start Picking Up the Reality Check
American Digest ^ | September 9, 2004 | Gerard Van der Leun

Posted on 09/09/2004 6:42:17 AM PDT by vanderleun

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1 posted on 09/09/2004 6:42:17 AM PDT by vanderleun
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If you were to look at the records of both candidates prior to 9/11, you probably wouldn't have been able to tell what either one would have done.

Perhaps some think that it would be better to go with one that would have learned from the others mistakes, and try something new...than to continue with one that they disagree with.


2 posted on 09/09/2004 6:48:59 AM PDT by stuartcr (Neither - Nor in '04....Who ya gonna hate in '08)
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To: vanderleun

Well done !!


3 posted on 09/09/2004 6:49:35 AM PDT by genefromjersey (So much to flame;so little time !)
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I think that would be a terrible mistake for us

I think the Times should have just printed the above sentence. It sums up the whole question of "If Kerry becomes president" nicely.

4 posted on 09/09/2004 6:51:05 AM PDT by frog_jerk_2004
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To: vanderleun

Very factual and fairly non-partisan article. Someone you know write this?


5 posted on 09/09/2004 6:52:18 AM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (I'm Conspiracy Guy and I approve this message. "John Kerry is a liar!")
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I don't agree with that statement because BUSH was always tough on criminals in Texas. Anyway, that was then this is now. We have already seen how BUSH has performed with regards to response to the 9/11 attacks. He is willing to risk political clout to protect America at any cost. In my book, that takes guts, which Kerry does not seem to have in any part of his life.

Remember what Alexander Hamilton said "Those who stand for nothing fall for anything"

6 posted on 09/09/2004 6:56:13 AM PDT by frog_jerk_2004
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To: frog_jerk_2004

That is correct.... When Bush was running for President the first thime the lefties were all in a tissy about how many death row inmates had been put to death in Texas. Since then you do not hear a word about that. These dims are just about on my last and final nerve. COME ON NOVEMBER 3~~~~~
they will start their it wasn't fair cry baby attacts then and start impeachement proceedings.


7 posted on 09/09/2004 6:59:49 AM PDT by JFC
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To: frog_jerk_2004

OK...just throwing out some different perspectives.

Remember though, that it is possible to appear to stand for nothing, while waiting for the opportunity to act...that is being flexible enough to make decisions on the fly, and not standing on pre-conceived notions.


8 posted on 09/09/2004 7:12:05 AM PDT by stuartcr (Neither - Nor in '04....Who ya gonna hate in '08)
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To: vanderleun

The WTC has been bombed twice. What was Clinton's rebuttal to the first bombing?????


9 posted on 09/09/2004 7:21:06 AM PDT by lonestar (Me, too!--Weinie)
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I agree to a point: pre-concieved notions can change but that shouldn't change your core foundation.

Like as in war when battles and other percieved outcomes change and you have to adjust, but the basic reason you are fighting the war does not change and is based on firm ground. You are fighting for a reason, based on sound moral and logical principals.

The war on terror is a great example of that: We must protect Americans anywhere in the world and strike them before they strike us or order to win.

10 posted on 09/09/2004 7:31:08 AM PDT by frog_jerk_2004
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To: Conspiracy Guy

"Very factual and fairly non-partisan article. Someone you know write this?"

Yes. I did. Thanks for the kind words.


11 posted on 09/09/2004 7:45:46 AM PDT by vanderleun (from <a href="http://americandigest.org" target=new> American Digest </a>)
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The point is that, pre-9/11, the government (clinton) treated the terrorists as criminals. Post-9/11 Bush treated them as enemies.

The clinton government did little or nothing to combat the situation because of this mind set. How do you "arrest" criminals hiding in Afghanistan?


12 posted on 09/09/2004 7:48:25 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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If you were blind and ignorant of the past then you could not predict. If you knew ANYTHING about Kerry the prediction is easy.


13 posted on 09/09/2004 7:52:12 AM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (My Father was 10x the hero John Fraud Kerry is.)
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I'm not talking about Kerry, I could not care less about him....as I said, I'm just throwing out some different views.


14 posted on 09/09/2004 7:58:52 AM PDT by stuartcr (Neither - Nor in '04....Who ya gonna hate in '08)
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To: frog_jerk_2004

Agreed mostly...I'm concerned that we stike the real enemy.


15 posted on 09/09/2004 8:02:04 AM PDT by stuartcr (Neither - Nor in '04....Who ya gonna hate in '08)
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To: vanderleun

I was sincere. Very good job.


16 posted on 09/09/2004 8:24:13 AM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (I'm Conspiracy Guy and I approve this message. "John Kerry is a liar!")
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To: stuartcr

No, you were talking about the candidates and claiming their actions were not predictable prior to 9/11. I am sorry but the actions of both were ENTIRELY predictable for any knowing their beliefs and history.


17 posted on 09/09/2004 10:34:02 AM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (My Father was 10x the hero John Fraud Kerry is.)
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You're right, my mistake on not talking about Kerry..while I don't claim to know anything about either candidate, I don't think that one could have accuratedly predicted what they would do.

Being tough on criminals, I don't believe, is the same as responding to 9/11, and I don't believe that Mr. Kerry was ever in a position to deal with criminals.


18 posted on 09/09/2004 10:59:03 AM PDT by stuartcr (Neither - Nor in '04....Who ya gonna hate in '08)
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Kerry was a prosecutor in Massachusetts prior to assuming federal office. He was also Michael (Willie Horton) Dukakis's Lt. Gov. and part of the Why Don't We allow Murderers and Rapists to Have Furloughs gang.

It should be easy for anyone familiar with Kerry's past to predict EXACTLY how he would react. He repeatedly stated he was opposed to unilateral action and supported UN approved actions.

You cannot seriously maintain that predicting how a Conservative will react compared to an Ultra-Liberal is difficult can you?


19 posted on 09/09/2004 11:07:48 AM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (My Father was 10x the hero John Fraud Kerry is.)
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To: justshutupandtakeit

Predicting how a person will react is difficult, if not impossible.....predicting how a party member will react depends on what the party wants.


20 posted on 09/09/2004 11:37:16 AM PDT by stuartcr (Neither - Nor in '04....Who ya gonna hate in '08)
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