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The original voyage of the Kon-Tiki was to prove that the South Americans could have populated the Pacific Islands. The evidence since then is overwhelming that this was not the case. The Pacific Islands were populated by groups from SE Asia which included members from the three racial groups. An excellent book on this subject is Eden In The East by Steven Oppenheimer.
1 posted on 09/06/2004 4:20:35 PM PDT by blam
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To: SunkenCiv

GGG Ping.


2 posted on 09/06/2004 4:21:06 PM PDT by blam
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3 posted on 09/06/2004 4:24:28 PM PDT by al baby (Im got to go to the rest room please hold my hand during the scary part)
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Actually, I just finished reading Thor's book.

When he brought up his theories, scientists poo-pooed it because there was no way that ancient Indians could have reached Polynesia. They had no ships.

So he set out to prove they could indeed have gotten there, which I believe he did quite conclusively.

He never said that his voyage would prove what happened, only what could have happened.


6 posted on 09/06/2004 4:31:26 PM PDT by Restorer
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To: blam

Great info. Thanks.


7 posted on 09/06/2004 4:32:13 PM PDT by Endeavor
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"People ask 'why don't you do this from a proper research ship?"' he said. "The reason is simply that we wouldn't get the same publicity for the research."

And after all isn't that what science is all about? Publicity?

8 posted on 09/06/2004 4:35:35 PM PDT by koolaidsmile ("Too weird to live, Too rare to die.")
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Thanks again Blam -- you've been busy.
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13 posted on 09/06/2004 9:40:54 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Unlike some people, I have a profile. Okay, maybe it's a little large...)
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To: blam

I thought that the Kon-Tiki was a replica. So the new boat will be a replica of a replica. The "Police Academy" series was bad enough.

Now that I think of it, they should get plenty of funding if they agree to take Steve Guttenberg with them.


14 posted on 09/06/2004 11:38:06 PM PDT by walford (http://utopia-unmasked.us)
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I was a very small boy when Thor Heyerdahl ( known as "Tor" ) stopped by my Island home to visit my parents. How my Dad knew him- other than being a fellow seafarer- is lost in the mists of time.


15 posted on 09/06/2004 11:47:30 PM PDT by backhoe
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Scientific evidence suggests that [Easter Island] was originally forested but was denuded by its inhabitants, leading to a conflict over natural resources that may have destroyed the society. [p 221]
There's a great deal of hostility, a wall of rejection, against Thor Heyerdahl among many academics (Robinson blows him off in this chapter), but he recorded the native story of the destruction of the Long-ears by the Short-ears. By fire. And the folk art of the island included stylized carvings of an emaciated Long-ear, which was based on a starved specimen found dead in the great quarry some time after the massacre.
None of the rongorongo inscriptions is dated. Was the script brought to the island from Polynesia perhaps a millennium and a half ago, or invented on the island unaided by outside influences, or was it a product of contacts with European visitors in the 18th century? ...Oral tradition on Easter Island, recorded in the 19th century, has it that the first settler, the legendary Hotu Matu'a, brought 67 tablets with him from his homeland in Polynesia... [W]e know of no writing systems in Oceania. [p 223]
Heyerdahl's view -- for which there has never been any scientific refutation -- was that the island was settled twice. The first population came from South America, the second from Polynesia. Heyerdahl showed a connection with S.A. in a sculpture he excavated in the 1950s. And predictably, the current excavator on Easter Island claims to be the first archaeologist ever to dig there.
[I]n 1770, two Spanish ships called in and claimed the island... Some islanders who looked like chiefs were drafted in by the Spanish to mark the 'treaty'. [Two of the characters they drew on the document] resemble common petroglyphs but which are certainly not recognizable as rongorongo. This is not conclusive evidence, though, that in 1770 the islanders were unable to write rongorongo... Nevertheless, when James Cook landed in 1774, he and his party saw no sign of writing. The first definite sighting of rongorongo does not occur until nearly a century later... in 1864... According to Eyraud, knowledge of the meaning of the signs was already dying out... more or less abandoned... within less than 90 years [of its invention]... [This] does accord with the young age of the wood in all surviving rongorongo inscriptions... [T]he largest and longest, the Santiago staff, has some 2300 characters on a wooden staff... and a second inscription, Tahua, a wooden tablet made out of a European or American oar, contains about 1825 characters. [pp 224-225]
Unless there was a huge corpus of rongorongo going back centuries, that has not survived -- perhaps yet undiscovered, otherwise long ago destroyed -- the writing must have originated relatively late, because the island was treeless. I suppose driftwood could have been used, but fire was known, and in order to have fire...
The Russian 'school' began with the work the young Boris Kudryavtsev, who identified several parallel passages in four different tablets where the same, or very similar sequences of characters were clearly repeated... Butinov and Knorozov [wrote] "This gives us reason to believe that we have to do with a list of names... This position of signs shows that we have to donot simply with a list of names but with a genealogy wich ascends from descendants to ancestors. The second sign in each group gives the name of the father. [pp 231-232]
That could be significant, and so could this:
Although Guy has made many contributions to the subject, his most significant one concerns the Mamari tablet... it was Guy who put Barthel's initial interpretation on a firm footing in 1990 by comparing the characters with the names for each day in the lunar month... Although not all of these suggestions have met with general acceptance, Guy's basic interpretation of the above section of the Mamari tablet is accepted by every rongorongo scholar. [pp 235-237]
Robinson cites the Gauguin painting, "The Ancestors of Tehamana", which shows rongorongo signs in the background. This was cited also (and much earlier) by Barry Fell, who (though not mentioned here by Robinson) also produced a purported translation.
Lost Languages: the Enigma of the Worlds Undeciphered Scripts Lost Languages:
the Enigma of the
World's Undeciphered Scripts

by Andrew Robinson

16 posted on 01/23/2005 5:44:38 PM PST by SunkenCiv (In the long run, there is only the short run.)
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a couple (of many) topics mentioning Heyerdahl and also related:

Site Sheds Light on Human Arrival
Culture/Society News
Source: AP via Yahoo
Published: May 26, 2001
Posted on 05/27/2001 06:25:12 PDT by sarcasm
http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3b11003848e1.htm

Who Really Discovered America?
Hope Of Israel
Posted on 07/14/2002 2:08:47 PM PDT by blam
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/716088/posts


17 posted on 01/23/2005 5:46:55 PM PST by SunkenCiv (In the long run, there is only the short run.)
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