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Terrorists Still Have Children Hostages (100 Dead, 400 Wounded)
Fox News | 9/03/04

Posted on 09/03/2004 8:23:01 AM PDT by kattracks

Fox is reporting that there are still terrorists in the buiding holding children hostage.


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: arabmercenaries; beslan; cair; cairsilentonchechnya; chechens; childhostages; islamofascists; islamonazis; nocaircondemnation; ossetia; russianschool; silenceissupport; silenceofcair; terrorists; whereiscair
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To: wonders

I call them goatpoking scumbag animals.


121 posted on 09/03/2004 5:14:43 PM PDT by Big Guy and Rusty 99 ("It Takes A Zippo To Raze A Village: The John Kerry Story")
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To: NavySEAL F-16

What was the word: subversive??


122 posted on 09/03/2004 5:20:01 PM PDT by onehipdad (Don't Be Economic Girlie-Man!)
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To: Free_in_Alabama

The problem is that dollars made in free societies by "moderate" muslins pays the terroris to deatroy freedom.

It is not hard to make the case that all muslims share the guilt.


124 posted on 09/03/2004 5:55:48 PM PDT by DonnerT (The 'Fourth Estate' has now become the terrorists 'Fifth Column.')
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To: yonif

Forgotten already or did you miss it? GW clearly said in his speedh last night that our war is with Islamic Terrorists.


126 posted on 09/03/2004 6:09:45 PM PDT by DonnerT (The 'Fourth Estate' has now become the terrorists 'Fifth Column.')
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To: TexKat

And still the story grows even more despicable.


127 posted on 09/03/2004 6:52:49 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg (There are still very few shades of gray.)
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To: kattracks

It's unfortunate that Chechnya still exists.


128 posted on 09/03/2004 8:34:30 PM PDT by StoneFury (DU is completely and absolutely full of suck)
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To: Papatom

dreaming will get us no where.


129 posted on 09/03/2004 9:05:41 PM PDT by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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To: DonnerT
GW clearly said in his speedh last night that our war is with Islamic Terrorists

He did? Please provide me the quote. I don't remember it.

130 posted on 09/03/2004 9:06:30 PM PDT by yonif ("So perish all Thine enemies, O the Lord" - Judges 5:31)
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To: kattracks

When the Romans were unable to reach an accomodation with an enemy, and had found the enemy so intractable as to be incapable of keeping a peace agreement, they would, after conquering, kill every living thing in the enemy's territory: men, women, children, dogs, horses - everything.

The Romans did not do this out of savagery, but because they had determined over the course of hundreds of years that this such measures were the only effective means of causing barbarians to fear Rome enough that they would stop committing depradations on the fringes of the Empire.


131 posted on 09/03/2004 9:44:59 PM PDT by fire_eye (Socialism is the opiate of academia.)
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To: tje

It is likely to happen here, but would freedom fighters mess up Kerry's hopes by striking pre-election?


132 posted on 09/03/2004 10:58:33 PM PDT by jschwartz
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To: tje

It is likely to happen here, but would freedom fighters mess up Kerry's hopes by striking pre-election?


133 posted on 09/03/2004 10:59:30 PM PDT by jschwartz
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To: leadpencil1; All

Fer durn sure

TERRORISTS are NOT ALLOWED to bring guns near a school!

SKERRY'S SPIT WADS KEEP THEM FLEEING AWAY IN UTTER TERROR!

/SAR


134 posted on 09/03/2004 11:01:49 PM PDT by Quix (PLEASE EMAIL ZELL MILLER AND OTHERS INSISTING HE SPEAK OUT LOTS)
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To: Free_in_Alabama

STRONGLY AGREE.


135 posted on 09/03/2004 11:02:28 PM PDT by Quix (PLEASE EMAIL ZELL MILLER AND OTHERS INSISTING HE SPEAK OUT LOTS)
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To: kattracks

This is so frightening. It is making me furious. How can they do this to children.


136 posted on 09/03/2004 11:03:34 PM PDT by television is just wrong
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To: wonders

Also true and the other horn of the dilema.

At some point, overwhelming force is the ONLY thing such terrorists and even some people groups

understand at all.


137 posted on 09/03/2004 11:04:04 PM PDT by Quix (PLEASE EMAIL ZELL MILLER AND OTHERS INSISTING HE SPEAK OUT LOTS)
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To: jpsb; Quix; All
Inform the Muslims that the west has as many nukes as they have cities.

Osama would rub his hands with glee if we did that. If we nuke all the Muslim cities in Africa, the Middle East, Central Asia, Southeast Asia, it's going to be a long cold winter, pal.

BTW, I was replying to the gentle(wo)man from Alabama who wrote:

We wiped out whole cities in order to break the will of the enemy to fight. Those cities provided the personnel/materials/labor to wage war. We should have waited for the tanks to get to the front lines before destroying them. If we blew up the factory we could kill an innocent person. That makes a lot of sense. These cities and countries are providing the material to wage war.

Okay, so what are the Russians supposed to do when they discover the terrorists' weapons were Russian Army black market specials? Bomb themselves?

Quix: Ah, a voice of reason on this Duke Nuk'em thread. Wasn't Zell the greatest? They don't make men like him anymore (sigh), not even here in the Glorious Southland. You know, I've always been against cloning, but when it comes to Zell....

138 posted on 09/04/2004 3:58:14 AM PDT by wonders (Whoever said "All's fair in love and war" probably never participated in either.)
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To: wonders

I think reason amidst all of this is . . . tricky.

I do believe that we need to make it cost the Jihadi's and their supporters A LOT MORE than 1:1.

How is a huge challenge.

I hate war at all. I even have a hard time killing a chicken for food. I certainly hate killing innocent people.

HOWEVER, while God hates violence of all kinds, His wrath is building to wipe all evil people off the planet.

And, in eras past, He Himself as well as directed Israel to wipe out entire people groups. Done. No more. Their evil was too great. He even directed their animals be killed and no booty taken.

I have to conclude in such cases that werein there are 'innocent' children [a concept I agree with though all are to some degree in rebellion against God in their hearts/spirits]--I have to conclude in such cases as wholesale destruction on a people group--that God's Love somehow is STILL IN THE MIDST OF THAT HORROR eternally fair and Loving to the innocents involved.

I don't know how. I don't know if He gives them an option at the point of death of accepting or rejecting a relationship with Him or what. But I know that His Mercy triumps over justice. And I know His Love is part and parcel of His Mercy.

AND, AT TIMES, IT IS NECESSARY TO WIPE OUT FAIRLY LARGE CLUSTERS OF PEOPLE TO RID THE LAND OF INSIDEOUS, WHOLESALE, INTRACTABLE EVIL. And the Jihadi's certainly qualify on those scores.

Therefore what, I don't know. Targeting only the Jihadi's is a challenging task.

Part of me is in favor of nuking Mecca. But the understandable odds are, it would just further inflame, radicalize and drive over the mental edge millions more uneducated, irrational and a lot of other Moslems.

God will deal with Islam--ultimately. He will wipe it off the planet. Whether He will use man or do it Supernaturally Himself remains to be seen. Thankfully, masses of them will be converted first.

We STILL have a responsibility as a responsible 'Christian,' freedom loving government of the people . . . to resist and slap down evil wholesale. It is right to do for all concerned--and certainly for our survival.

At some point, platitudinous passivism just won't cut it. Spitballs will not stop a Jihadi from beheading innocents. The Jihadi's and all who support them must be eradicated FIRST.


139 posted on 09/04/2004 4:34:28 AM PDT by Quix (PLEASE EMAIL ZELL MILLER AND OTHERS INSISTING HE SPEAK OUT LOTS)
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To: Sans-Culotte

Actually, not much oil in Chechnya. Most is all gone and most was never on real Chechyn land but on northern "Chechyn" plain (ever drill oil from mountain side?) which till 1920 was lands of the (now thanks to Stalin & Chechins) extinct Tarek Cossaks (Tarek river runs in Grozny).


140 posted on 09/04/2004 8:14:42 AM PDT by RussianConservative (Xristos: the Light of the World)
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