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1,000 May Be Held at Russian School
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Posted on 09/03/2004 12:07:10 AM PDT by Happy2BMe

1,000 May Be Held at Russian School
01:34 AM EST - September 03, 2004

CLICK TO ENLARGE - A soldier carries a baby and a woman holds a child after being released by militants in Beslan, North Ossetia, Thursday, Sept. 2, 2004. Heavily-armed militants released at least 31 women and children on Thursday from the provincial Russian school where they are holding more than 350 hostages for the second straight day, officials said. (AP Photo/Sergey Ponomarev)

The Associated Press


BESLAN, Russia

Camouflage-clad commandos carried crying babies away from a school where gunmen holding hundreds of hostages freed at least 26 women and children Thursday during a second day of high drama that kept crowds of distraught relatives on edge.

Two new accounts emerged, meanwhile, that the militants were holding at least 1,000 children, teachers and parents inside the school, far more than previously thought.

Russian officials had said that about 350 people were being held by raiders who seized the school in the North Ossetian city of Beslan on Wednesday. But a teacher who was among at least 26 women and children released on Thursday disputed that, according to a report published Friday.

"On television they say that there are 350 of us. That's not right. There's not less than 1,500 in the school," the respected newspaper Izvestia quoted the woman as saying on condition of anonymity.

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In addition, local legislator Azamat Kadykov told a meeting packed with worried relatives and friends Friday that the number of hostages was "more or less 1,000."

The reports could not immediately be confirmed, but the woman who spoke with Izvestia said that some 1,000 children were enrolled at the school, and the militants had captured teachers and many parents as well when they invaded the building Tuesday during a ceremony to celebrate the start of the new school year.

As the names of the freed hostages were read over a loudspeaker Thursday, men and women wept with disappointment or hugged each other with relief. Some of the toddlers released were naked, apparently because of the stifling heat in the school, where the hostage-takers refused to allow authorities to deliver water, food and medicine for the captives.

Tensions had risen earlier when the militants fired grenades at two cars near the compound ringed by security forces, and later two grenade blasts interrupted a nervous calm during the night.

Another explosion roared on Friday morning, as Kadykov and Leonid Rosahal, a pediatrician who has been involved in the negotiations, spoke to the crowd of worried residents.

Roshal told parents that all the children inside were alive. As he spoke, parents frantically scribbled names of their children on paper and tried to pass them to the doctor. Others began calling out names, begging for information about their loved ones.

"They want hysteria from us," Roshal said, trying to calm the increasingly desperate crowd. "Our strength is in (our) composure and good sense."

President Vladimir Putin said everything possible would be done to end the "horrible" crisis and save the lives of the children and adults being held at School No. 1 in Beslan, a town in the southern region of North Ossetia.

But it was uncertain how much either side was willing to give to avoid further bloodshed in the siege - the latest incident in a series of violent attacks believed linked to Russia's war in Chechnya. A dozen people were reported killed by the attackers when the school was captured Wednesday, but one official said Thursday that 16 died.

Reports after the standoff began Wednesday said the attackers demanded the release of people jailed after attacks on police posts in June that killed more than 90 people in Ingushetia, a region between North Ossetia and Chechnya. But officials said Thursday that the hostage-takers had not clearly formulated their demands.

Late Thursday, Lev Dzugayev, a North Ossetian official, said his previous statement that 354 hostages were seized Wednesday might have been too low, and many in the anxious crowds said they believed the number was much higher. "Putin: at least 800 people are being held hostage," read a sign held up for television cameras.

Valery Andreyev, chief of the regional office of the Federal Security Service, meanwhile said that contacts with the hostage-takers had resumed Friday morning, following an overnight suspension, but stopped again.

Relatives, friends and neighbors who crowded outside barricades blocking access to the school gasped when the hostage release was announced by Dzugayev, an aide to the president of North Ossetia.

Dzugayev and other officials said 26 women and children of various ages were released, but Russian media reported that one woman went back to be with her still-captive children. An official at the crisis headquarters said another group of five hostages was let go separately.

An Associated Press Television News reporter saw two women and at least three infants being led away by soldiers. Some toddlers among those released were completely naked, apparently because of the heat.

Dzugayev called the releases "the first success" of negotiations and said they came after mediation - including inside the school - by Ruslan Aushev, a former president of the Ingushetia republic who is a respected figure in the northern Caucasus.

The hostage release came after anxieties were sent soaring by two powerful explosions, followed by a plume of black smoke rising from the vicinity of the school. The crisis headquarters said the militants fired grenades at two cars that apparently drove too close to the building. Officials said neither car was hit, but a gutted car was visible not far from the school.

Thursday evening, a series of heavy thuds that sounded like artillery could be heard for several minutes, apparently coming from an area northwest of town. There was no information on what caused the sounds.

Two grenade blasts were heard early Friday, and the Interfax news agency reported a policeman was injured. One projectile exploded on a street several hundred yards from the school and another hit in a yard, witnesses said. Dzugayev said that the hostage-takers told Russian authorities they fired because they saw suspicious movement and that officials told them there was no such movement.

Any hint of violence put people on edge. After seizing the school, the militants reportedly threatened to blow it up if troops tried to rescue the hostages and warned they would kill prisoners if any of their gang was hurt. Authorities estimated 15 to 24 militants held the school.

In his first public comments on the crisis, Putin pledged to do everything possible to rescue the hostages.

"Our main task is, of course, to save the lives and health of those who became hostages," Putin said in televised comments during a meeting at the Kremlin with visiting Jordanian King Abdullah II. "All actions of our forces working on the hostages' release will be devoted and be subject to this task exclusively."

Two major hostage-taking raids by Chechen rebels outside the war-torn region in the past decade prompted forceful Russian rescue operations that led to many deaths. The most recent, the seizure of a Moscow theater in 2002, ended after a knockout gas was pumped into the building, debilitating the captors but causing almost all of the 129 hostage deaths.

Andreyev, the Federal Security Service's chief in North Ossetia, seemed to rule out the use of force against the hostage-takers.

"There is no alternative to dialogue," he told the ITAR-Tass news agency. "One should expect long and tense negotiations."

The militants' identity was also murky.

Dzugayev said the attackers might be from Chechnya or Ingushetia. Law enforcement sources in North Ossetia and Ingushetia, speaking on condition of anonymity, said the attackers were believed to include Chechens, Ingush, Russians and a North Ossetian suspected of participating in the Ingushetia violence.

Russia was on edge following the nearly simultaneous bombings on two jetliners last week, a suicide bombing in Moscow on Tuesday and the school siege.

The upsurge in violence has been a blow to Putin, who pledged five years ago to crush Chechnya's rebels but instead has seen the insurgents increasingly strike civilian targets beyond the republic's borders.



By MIKE ECKEL Associated Press Writer



TOPICS: Front Page News; Russia
KEYWORDS: caucasus; invasion; islam; ossetia; terrorism; war
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To: Happy2BMe

also today I heard that they still had 7 to 9 bodies laying outside the front of the school, the people cannot even get close enough to the school so that they can pull the dead away from the front of it. They have been laying there for 2+ days now.


41 posted on 09/03/2004 12:46:59 AM PDT by stlnative
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To: jwpjr

God will forgive me or judge me for it, but...

MY pleasure, FRiend.


42 posted on 09/03/2004 12:47:42 AM PDT by clee1 (Islam is a deadly plague; liberalism is the AIDS virus that prevents us from defending ourselves.)
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To: broadsword

God has sent us, and we are in this place in time for a reason. We were crafted with the values and mores we have, so we might defeat the enemy as it needed to be done. Christian soldiers, living like justice matters and dying like Christ -

I believe that love is part of the answer, and God has a purpose for these people. I also know that God has not sent us here to capitulate, but to fight; Jesus, the Master of Love, defeated the Devil even as he wept for him...

The heart of America was shaped like the heart of the true Paladin, believing that virtue can win and love can conquer all. This soldier, the one who kills the enemy and then rescues their children - the one who weeps for those he will destroy, then rebuilds their world - is uniquely created to this task. We must be true to ourselves, and true to our calling by God. Only then can we defeat the enemy we were created to confront.


43 posted on 09/03/2004 12:48:30 AM PDT by dandelion (http://johnkerryquestionfairy.blogspot.com/)
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To: brigette
Unless a miracle from God (not allah) comes, the Russians will have to send in their equivelent of our "Delta Force" to neutralize (read: kill) the Islamic mujahadeen.

The mujhadeen will beging killing at the outset of this operation, but won't be able to take out all 1,000 hostages before they themselves go to meet their 72 virgins in paradise.

Pray.

44 posted on 09/03/2004 12:48:31 AM PDT by Happy2BMe (I have knocked on the door of this man's soul and found someone home - Georgia Democrat Zell Miller)
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To: Happy2BMe

Yes indeed. The news media bends over backwards to protect allah's beheading, bloody child killers while bashing Christians and Jews continuously.


45 posted on 09/03/2004 12:49:54 AM PDT by Walkin Man
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To: Robert_Paulson2

That time may come, of necessity, and of passion. In some places, that time may be now.

I think that it will come to Europe first.

I do not see much Islamic influence in the U.S. in the long term.


46 posted on 09/03/2004 12:52:20 AM PDT by Unknowing (Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their country.)
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To: brigette
What are we going to do?

I can't say on this website specifically... but I would venture to say that it would minimally involve concentration camps that would become the homes for islamic background by martial law. At least, until we finish off the rest of the mad mo cult members, one nation at a time... or all of them in mass fry and glaze exercise. Islam is an antichrist political system, disguised as a religion. There will be no peace with it.

It is in it's death throes but will insist on taking civilization with it if at all possible.

47 posted on 09/03/2004 12:52:27 AM PDT by Robert_Paulson2 (Robert the "RINO")
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To: brigette
This is reaching critical mass for Putin - just like the Moscow theatre did two years ago when (I don't remember how many) innocents were killed during the counterstrike operation.

I predict Putin will snuff this by morning EST - at the expense of who knows how many innocents.

There *IS* no bargaining with Islam. The sooner we learn that in Detroit, NYC, L.A., Houston and the rest of this country, the better off we'll be here in the United States.

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48 posted on 09/03/2004 12:52:27 AM PDT by Happy2BMe (I have knocked on the door of this man's soul and found someone home - Georgia Democrat Zell Miller)
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To: brigette
What the hell are we going to do if they take a large school of little kids hostage here in the USA?

We, as a country, fall to our knees and pray to God for the safety of the innocent - then we send a Delta Force team in and KILL EVERY LAST ONE OF THE TERRORISTS.

We will have to hope that they can do the job before too many innocents suffer, but to do otherwise will just encourage many more similar incidents.

50 posted on 09/03/2004 12:52:58 AM PDT by clee1 (Islam is a deadly plague; liberalism is the AIDS virus that prevents us from defending ourselves.)
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To: nw_arizona_granny
The original report was 200 parents/200 children. Now it is in excess of 1000. Possibly 1500. The siege has been going for 3 days with no food or water permitted into the facility. They can't live without food or water forever.
51 posted on 09/03/2004 12:53:13 AM PDT by Myrddin
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To: dandelion

Oh, bump this!


52 posted on 09/03/2004 12:53:57 AM PDT by Unknowing (Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their country.)
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To: clee1; dandelion; All; Salem; Geist Krieger
I'm just like General Boykin - I believe MY GOD is more powerful than THEIR GOD.

Good night all. Pray for the peace of Jeruselum. Pray that God's (not allah's) righteous judgement will reign down upon all of Islam.

53 posted on 09/03/2004 12:57:34 AM PDT by Happy2BMe (I have knocked on the door of this man's soul and found someone home - Georgia Democrat Zell Miller)
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To: xJones
This is intolerable, using hundreds of school children.

Last time Basayev took a hospital.

54 posted on 09/03/2004 12:58:36 AM PDT by MarMema
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To: Travis McGee

Hold your ground on this, Trav. You propose the nucleus of a winning strategy.

Nukes won't happen this time, but will. Mecca won't be the only place, either.


55 posted on 09/03/2004 12:59:01 AM PDT by Iris7 ("Democracy" assumes every opinion is equally valid. No one believes this is true.)
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To: Travis McGee; Happy2BMe

I don't know the exact logistics but how about the Russkies rounding up four thousand Chechnyan children and putting them behind a quickie barbed wire cyclone fence built around the school's perimeter. So if they blow up the school it's not just a human sacrifice of Russian youth?

I read this idea elsewhere.

After this crisis is over the Chechnyans should be driven to Siberia same as Stalin did. Seeing how mad dog crazy the Iraqis and Chechnyans are I have a new respect for ruthless dictators who knew how to keep them in line. Stalin and Saddam Hussein.


56 posted on 09/03/2004 1:00:06 AM PDT by dennisw (Allah FUBAR!)
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To: Happy2BMe
I believe MY GOD is more powerful than THEIR GOD.

Of course He is, my friend. The Muslirat "god" is a lifeless damned meteorite!
57 posted on 09/03/2004 1:00:53 AM PDT by broadsword (Let's respect "holy" Muslim sites like they respected those giant Buddhist statues in Afghanistan!)
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To: dennisw; Travis McGee
Unless and until Americans think this war on (Islamic) terrorism is more than just a political game for some politicians "way over there in Washington" to use for reelection purposes, the exact same thing will eventually make it's way to our home town schools and day care centers.

(We tend to react more swiftly though than the Ruskies have - and know who our real friends in the world are and are not.)

58 posted on 09/03/2004 1:04:35 AM PDT by Happy2BMe (I have knocked on the door of this man's soul and found someone home - Georgia Democrat Zell Miller)
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To: Happy2BMe
I'm just like General Boykin - I believe MY GOD is more powerful than THEIR GOD

Bit of a moot point since their Allah is not a god but a spirit, that was born of a mad man's epileptic hallucinations. Allah at best, is the successor to a clay idol moon spirit in the pre-Mohammedan array of Arabic spirit-gods.

59 posted on 09/03/2004 1:05:55 AM PDT by dennisw (Allah FUBAR!)
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To: broadsword; All
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 21ST CENTURY JIHAD


60 posted on 09/03/2004 1:07:06 AM PDT by Happy2BMe (I have knocked on the door of this man's soul and found someone home - Georgia Democrat Zell Miller)
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