Posted on 08/27/2004 11:41:39 AM PDT by Joe Republc
I agree.
You are wrong.
Ritalin = Methylphenidate
Adderall = Methamphetamine
An interesting thing. Both are uppers. They will cause most people to become hyperactive. They have the opposite effect on ADDers.
That show was hysterical.
James Dobson holds a pretty fair view of the problem. At first I thought I may just have ADD because I can spend hours on FR and not even notice :O)
Get several opinions on your boy, however, ADD is very real.
See my post #346.
Brave New World
I don't always trust doctors, sorry. They usually refuse to look at dietary problems and are willing to drug before anything else is considered. Diet can often mean the difference, not always perhaps, but it should be looked into.
With all the preservatives they put in food, it's a wonder we're still alive. I always say we die younger but our bodies last forever! (smile)
I think nutritionists have a little more expertise than dentists. Many of them diligently study the body and its reactions to drugs, preservatives, etc. There's more out there than doctors. You need to be cautious, of course, but drugs are not always the answer.
It is most certainly the same thing. The main ingrediant is Methylphenidate. From add.about.com/od/concerta/s, "Methylphenidate is the main ingredient in Ritalin, Concerta and Medadate. Find out side effects, drug interactions and precautions before you start taking this medication."
Commonly Used Names
Ritalin
Ritalin SR
PMS-Methylphenidate
Riphenidate
Concerta (Extended release)
Metadate
I hate to get personal with you here but if you did not even know that then you need to question every thing you think you know about this subject.
Just remember that the point of the post was that the Marines WILL NOT take you if they know you have been on this stuff. This is well known by myself (being a former Marine and publicized about the Colembine massacre.
Come to the cicus and watch monkeys jumping through burning hoop and then watch the experts try to make convoluted explainations on why their brain disorder diagnosise is selective.
You know if you did brain scans of those in the holocost camps their brains would look diferent. If you had a ham and chesse omelet every am your brain would look different.
Good point. My ancestors (WV stock) all lived to their late 80's and 90's. They ate eggs, biscuits (made with lard), bacon, gravy, fried bologna, and fried apples for breakfast every day of their lives. I've often wondered why they didn't all die in their 50's with a heart attack.
Ritalin is a MIND ALTERING DRUG! And giving it to children whos brains are still developing is a serious serious issue! There have been no long term studies to my knowlege of the long term affects of Ritalin on brain development etc.
I would not put my kid on Ritalin unless he was so out of control that I could not get him personally to sit still for 10 minutes and do something that he enjoys.
If your child is capable of sitting still and doing a task they enjoy, say coloring, putting together a model car, completing a puzzle, or some other task that requires focus for 10-15 minutes to complete (make sure it is a task the ENJOY doing) then they don't have ADD and they don't need drugs.
They may need more discipline in their life, almost certainly less television... but they don't need drugs!! Just because your child won't sit like a baby doll for 8 hours for teacher doesn't mean they have a mental disorder.
The only, and I do mean ONLY way I would ever even contemplate drugs for my child regarding attention issues would be if I personally realized he was completely unable to stay on task, even if it was a task I really really really knew he loved consistently for less than 15 minutes.
I have to take care of kids who were on ritalin for years, and had none when they were with me for nearly 2 weeks. They exibited absolutely no problems in my care during that time with no drugs, after a few days of consistent disciplining the "symptoms" of their "disorder" were gone.
Consistent discipline, less TV (ideally NO TV) and computer games.... interaction and engagement with the child consistently and you will be amazed at the behavior shift in short order.
I would NEVER EVER EVER let a TEACHER pressure me into doping up my kid, because she or he has been made so impotent by the pc "self esteem" crowd and undicipling parents at home that they can no longer keep control of their classrooms.
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