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Cheney Backs Freedom for Gay Relationships
AP ^ | 8-24-04

Posted on 08/24/2004 1:43:08 PM PDT by ambrose

Posted on Tue, Aug. 24, 2004

Cheney Backs Freedom for Gay Relationships

TODD DVORAK

Associated Press

DAVENPORT, Iowa - Vice President Dick Cheney, whose daughter Mary is a lesbian, spoke supportively about gay relationships on Tuesday, saying "freedom means freedom for everyone."

At a campaign rally in this Mississippi River town, Cheney was asked about his stand on gay marriage - an issue for which his boss, President Bush, has pushed for a constitutional amendment to ban such unions.

"Lynne and I have a gay daughter, so it's an issue our family is very familiar with," Cheney said. "With the respect to the question of relationships, my general view is freedom means freedom for everyone ... People ought to be free to enter into any kind of relationship they want to.

"The question that comes up with the issue of marriage is what kind of official sanction or approval is going to be granted by government? Historically, that's been a relationship that has been handled by the states. The states have made that fundamental decision of what constitutes a marriage," he said.

Bush backs a constitutional amendment prohibiting gay marriage, a move Cheney says was prompted by various judicial rulings, including the action in Massachusetts that made gay marriage legal.

"I think his perception was that the courts, in effect, were beginning to change, without allowing the people to be involved," Cheney said. "The courts were making the judgment for the entire country."

That stand put Cheney at odds with his wife. Last month, Lynne Cheney said states should have the final say over the legal status of personal relationships, a comment that came just days before the Senate failed to back the ban.

Cheney said the amendment did not have the votes to pass, but he also said the federal Defense of Marriage Act, which President Clinton signed into law in 1996, may be sufficient to resolve the issue.

The Cheneys have two daughters, both of whom are working on the campaign. Mary Cheney is director of vice presidential operations for the Bush-Cheney re-election campaign. She held a public role as her father's assistant in the 2000 campaign and helped the GOP recruit gay voters during the 2002 midterm elections.

During the 2000 campaign, vice presidential candidate Dick Cheney took the position that states should decide legal issues about personal relationships and that people should be free to enter relationships of their choosing.

While Bush and Cheney back the proposed constitutional amendment, their Democratic rivals, Sens. John Kerry of Massachusetts and John Edwards of North Carolina, oppose the amendment.

The Democrats also oppose gay marriage, but defend a gay couple's rights to the same legal protections as those conferred in marriage.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: dickcheney; gayvote; homosexualagenda; issues; marriageamendment; marycheney; samesexunions
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To: Howlin

This is what you asked:
"So if they can prove their "disease free" it's fine by you?"

Has nothing to do with the question I was askin' jerry.


81 posted on 08/24/2004 2:43:54 PM PDT by Darksheare (Who are all these mimes, why are they in the woods, and did you know they taste like chicken?)
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To: Modernman

And yet they STILL remain on the books...


82 posted on 08/24/2004 2:43:59 PM PDT by Lurking2Long
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To: jerrydavenport
If homosexuals have the same "rights" as everyone else,then do you think that they should be allowed to have same sex weddings and all of the same rights and privileges as heterosexual married couples?
83 posted on 08/24/2004 2:44:03 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past

=== Is the public gullible enough to buy that.



Sure ... they swallowed the ESCR thing with no problem.


84 posted on 08/24/2004 2:44:07 PM PDT by Askel5 († Cooperatio voluntaria ad suicidium est legi morali contraria. †)
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To: ambrose
freedom means freedom for everyone

Freedom for perverts to perv, perjurers to perjure, theives to steal, murderers to kill...

85 posted on 08/24/2004 2:44:11 PM PDT by PeoplesRepublicOfWashington (Jean Fraude Kerrí pour le Presidenté--Non!)
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To: Darksheare

Well, let me put it to you straight as I can:

If a homosexual is disease free, does any relationship they have bother you?


86 posted on 08/24/2004 2:44:43 PM PDT by Howlin (John Kerry & John Edwards: Political Malpractice)
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To: Lurking2Long
Hope your's is finger lickin' good...

So, so weak.

87 posted on 08/24/2004 2:44:44 PM PDT by Modernman (Hippies.They're everywhere. They wanna save the earth, but all they do is smoke pot and smell bad.)
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To: Modernman

Oh, it gets worse..........LOL.


88 posted on 08/24/2004 2:45:02 PM PDT by Howlin (John Kerry & John Edwards: Political Malpractice)
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To: Howlin

Jerry said:
"But what about individual liberties and how far does the state intrude into a person's personal life."

I said:
What 'right' does someone have to spread a deadly disease?

Now, what behaviors spread deadly disease?


89 posted on 08/24/2004 2:45:41 PM PDT by Darksheare (Who are all these mimes, why are they in the woods, and did you know they taste like chicken?)
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To: PeoplesRepublicOfWashington
Freedom for perverts to perv, perjurers to perjure, theives to steal, murderers to kill...

Freedom of speech, right to bear arms, right to free association ... This isn't a buffet, you can't pick and choose what freedoms are available to free people.
90 posted on 08/24/2004 2:45:55 PM PDT by lelio
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To: ambrose

Good for him.


91 posted on 08/24/2004 2:46:17 PM PDT by conserv13
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To: ambrose
"People ought to be free to enter into any kind of relationship they want to."

I don't think so. You don't have to imagine the perverted, wrong kinds of relationships many people would want to enter in to. Homosexuals, pedophiles and animal lovers have made it clear among other pervertors.

92 posted on 08/24/2004 2:46:21 PM PDT by ethical
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To: Howlin

No, I'm serious...anyone who calls themselves a Republican and takes the stands you do on social issues has got to have a split personality...


93 posted on 08/24/2004 2:46:21 PM PDT by Lurking2Long
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To: Darksheare

Heterosexuals carry deadly STDs too. Should heterosexual sex be outlawed? That's your logic whether you directed it at me or not.


94 posted on 08/24/2004 2:46:39 PM PDT by TigersEye (Intellectuals only exist if you think they do!)
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To: Lurking2Long

Please tell me we're not going to get into who's a "real" Republican and who's not. We already have the who's a "real" conservative and who's not chorus.


95 posted on 08/24/2004 2:48:03 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: Lurking2Long
anyone who calls themselves a Republican and takes the stands you do on social issues has got to have a split personality...

Well, I do have an alter ego; it's the one who calls a spade a spade.

Whatever you are, I pity the people in your real life.

96 posted on 08/24/2004 2:48:24 PM PDT by Howlin (John Kerry & John Edwards: Political Malpractice)
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To: lelio
you can't pick and choose what freedoms are available to free people.

Sure we can...it's called S-O-C-I-E-T-Y...

97 posted on 08/24/2004 2:48:24 PM PDT by Lurking2Long
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To: Darksheare
Promiscuity and unprotected sex.

Which have nothing to do with being homosexual or heterosexual.
98 posted on 08/24/2004 2:48:33 PM PDT by drtom
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To: FrankWild
That's patently ridiculous! Their other daughter is a heterosexual,married and the mother of children.

You have NO idea how much or how little time the Cheneys spent with their daughters.

99 posted on 08/24/2004 2:48:45 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: Lurking2Long
And yet they STILL remain on the books...

It doesn't matter. There is no requirement that an unconstitutional law actually be removed from the relevant legal code. The law in question is unconstitutional, whether or not it is still in the NC code.

100 posted on 08/24/2004 2:49:15 PM PDT by Modernman (Hippies.They're everywhere. They wanna save the earth, but all they do is smoke pot and smell bad.)
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