Posted on 08/24/2004 1:43:08 PM PDT by ambrose
Posted on Tue, Aug. 24, 2004
Cheney Backs Freedom for Gay Relationships
TODD DVORAK
Associated Press
DAVENPORT, Iowa - Vice President Dick Cheney, whose daughter Mary is a lesbian, spoke supportively about gay relationships on Tuesday, saying "freedom means freedom for everyone."
At a campaign rally in this Mississippi River town, Cheney was asked about his stand on gay marriage - an issue for which his boss, President Bush, has pushed for a constitutional amendment to ban such unions.
"Lynne and I have a gay daughter, so it's an issue our family is very familiar with," Cheney said. "With the respect to the question of relationships, my general view is freedom means freedom for everyone ... People ought to be free to enter into any kind of relationship they want to.
"The question that comes up with the issue of marriage is what kind of official sanction or approval is going to be granted by government? Historically, that's been a relationship that has been handled by the states. The states have made that fundamental decision of what constitutes a marriage," he said.
Bush backs a constitutional amendment prohibiting gay marriage, a move Cheney says was prompted by various judicial rulings, including the action in Massachusetts that made gay marriage legal.
"I think his perception was that the courts, in effect, were beginning to change, without allowing the people to be involved," Cheney said. "The courts were making the judgment for the entire country."
That stand put Cheney at odds with his wife. Last month, Lynne Cheney said states should have the final say over the legal status of personal relationships, a comment that came just days before the Senate failed to back the ban.
Cheney said the amendment did not have the votes to pass, but he also said the federal Defense of Marriage Act, which President Clinton signed into law in 1996, may be sufficient to resolve the issue.
The Cheneys have two daughters, both of whom are working on the campaign. Mary Cheney is director of vice presidential operations for the Bush-Cheney re-election campaign. She held a public role as her father's assistant in the 2000 campaign and helped the GOP recruit gay voters during the 2002 midterm elections.
During the 2000 campaign, vice presidential candidate Dick Cheney took the position that states should decide legal issues about personal relationships and that people should be free to enter relationships of their choosing.
While Bush and Cheney back the proposed constitutional amendment, their Democratic rivals, Sens. John Kerry of Massachusetts and John Edwards of North Carolina, oppose the amendment.
The Democrats also oppose gay marriage, but defend a gay couple's rights to the same legal protections as those conferred in marriage.
What I heard was probably not all that he said but he used the very buzzy word "freedom". "I believe in freedom which means people should have the right to enter into any relationship they want". Well look at how ambiguous that is. It is the typical heathen conservative position.
Pillars of salt they will be, just as Lot and family found out! The warning in the Bible was not just for Sodom and Gomorah, they were just made the example for the rest of time.
Ops4 God BLess America!
That's true.
And the use of "freedom" and "whatever relationship" is so vague as to be liable to any interpretation one wants to put on it.
What I can't see in the statement is any way that it can be interpreted as the government putting it's foot down about something that is a Christian value. It's right there with the libertarian idea: "I have the right to injest or inject anything in MY BODY that I want". It can be painted as very red white and blue, liberty, freedom bla bla bla.
And this certainly wouldn't be enough for me to want Cheney removed from the ticket -- only to be replaced by someone like pro-abort, pro-"gay"-agendist Giuliani. (Not that I think Bush is even considering that.)
All in the name of freedom. Yet who is less free than a drug addict?
It can be painted as very red white and blue, liberty, freedom bla bla bla.
Judges 21:25.
Well, just as the left makes an idol of "equality" the right often makes an idol of "liberty."
Both are self-destructive distortions and practical impossibilities.
Think about the Aristotelian concept of "the good life" and the common modern interpretation of that phrase today.
Even heathenism isn't what it used to be.
Ah. How convenient.
Cheney should have just said.."it's my daughter's personal life and I won't discuss it".
Earlier the same day Cheney attended a fund raiser for Kris Kobach, Republican candidate for Congress in Kansas 3rd District. In his first TV commercials that aired last week, Kobach said that his priority is passage of an amendment banning gay marriages. Now the Vice President calls it a state issue. No doubt Moore will try and use Cheney's comments to paint Kobach as so extreme that he's out of touch with his own party leadership.
"I certainly wouldn't take a national stand on my children's relationship, would you"
As a loving & caring father, I sure as hell would!!!!
Interesting. Why?
You can see that in every NFL game.
Cheney's position is close to mine, except that I support nationalized gay marriage, but only if done by the legislative branch, and signed by the executive.
Cool.
Admit it- it turned you on.
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