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Posted on 08/24/2004 1:43:08 PM PDT by ambrose
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To: wideawake
I disagree with what he said and I think he was dead wrong. But I don't think it amounts to a blanket endorsement of sodomy. What I heard was probably not all that he said but he used the very buzzy word "freedom". "I believe in freedom which means people should have the right to enter into any relationship they want". Well look at how ambiguous that is. It is the typical heathen conservative position.
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posted on
08/25/2004 7:34:12 AM PDT
by
biblewonk
(neither said any of them that aught of the things which he possessed was his own)
To: ambrose
Pillars of salt they will be, just as Lot and family found out! The warning in the Bible was not just for Sodom and Gomorah, they were just made the example for the rest of time.
Ops4 God BLess America!
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posted on
08/25/2004 7:35:34 AM PDT
by
OPS4
(worth repeating)
To: biblewonk
It is the typical heathen conservative position.That's true.
And the use of "freedom" and "whatever relationship" is so vague as to be liable to any interpretation one wants to put on it.
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posted on
08/25/2004 7:37:23 AM PDT
by
wideawake
(God bless our brave soldiers and their Commander in Chief)
To: wideawake
And the use of "freedom" and "whatever relationship" is so vague as to be liable to any interpretation one wants to put on it. What I can't see in the statement is any way that it can be interpreted as the government putting it's foot down about something that is a Christian value. It's right there with the libertarian idea: "I have the right to injest or inject anything in MY BODY that I want". It can be painted as very red white and blue, liberty, freedom bla bla bla.
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posted on
08/25/2004 7:43:46 AM PDT
by
biblewonk
(neither said any of them that aught of the things which he possessed was his own)
To: Ann Archy
I'll second that. I'm disappointed in the Cheneys too - but only over this issue.
And this certainly wouldn't be enough for me to want Cheney removed from the ticket -- only to be replaced by someone like pro-abort, pro-"gay"-agendist Giuliani. (Not that I think Bush is even considering that.)
To: biblewonk
It's right there with the libertarian idea: "I have the right to injest or inject anything in MY BODY that I want".All in the name of freedom. Yet who is less free than a drug addict?
It can be painted as very red white and blue, liberty, freedom bla bla bla.
Judges 21:25.
Well, just as the left makes an idol of "equality" the right often makes an idol of "liberty."
Both are self-destructive distortions and practical impossibilities.
Think about the Aristotelian concept of "the good life" and the common modern interpretation of that phrase today.
Even heathenism isn't what it used to be.
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posted on
08/25/2004 7:56:09 AM PDT
by
wideawake
(God bless our brave soldiers and their Commander in Chief)
To: FrankWild
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posted on
08/25/2004 8:40:17 AM PDT
by
Quick1
To: shhrubbery!
Cheney should have just said.."it's my daughter's personal life and I won't discuss it".
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posted on
08/25/2004 8:50:42 AM PDT
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Ann Archy
(Abortion: The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
To: ambrose
Earlier the same day Cheney attended a fund raiser for Kris Kobach, Republican candidate for Congress in Kansas 3rd District. In his first TV commercials that aired last week, Kobach said that his priority is passage of an amendment banning gay marriages. Now the Vice President calls it a state issue. No doubt Moore will try and use Cheney's comments to paint Kobach as so extreme that he's out of touch with his own party leadership.
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posted on
08/25/2004 8:56:08 AM PDT
by
Non-Sequitur
(Jefferson Davis - the first 'selected, not elected' president.)
To: Howlin
"I certainly wouldn't take a national stand on my children's relationship, would you"
As a loving & caring father, I sure as hell would!!!!
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posted on
08/25/2004 8:56:52 AM PDT
by
familyofman
(nobody's right if everybody's wrong)
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To: FrankWild
especially the male queersInteresting. Why?
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posted on
08/25/2004 9:34:39 AM PDT
by
Protagoras
(" I believe that's the role of the federal government, to help people"...GWB, 7-23-04)
To: FrankWild
The two beach volleyball women for the USA hugged on every point and grabbed, not just slapped, each other's buttocks on every winning play. You can see that in every NFL game.
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posted on
08/25/2004 9:36:51 AM PDT
by
Non-Sequitur
(Jefferson Davis - the first 'selected, not elected' president.)
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To: Torie
Cheney's position is close to mine, except that I support nationalized gay marriage, but only if done by the legislative branch, and signed by the executive.
well that's unlikley to happen anytime soon
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posted on
08/25/2004 11:34:48 AM PDT
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KQQL
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To: FrankWild
By their filthy behavior, not only did they prove that they were vulgarians, but they also proved to all but the most naive that they were lovers. Cool.
Admit it- it turned you on.
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posted on
08/25/2004 1:52:53 PM PDT
by
Modernman
(Hippies.They're everywhere. They wanna save the earth, but all they do is smoke pot and smell bad.)
To: FrankWild
You don't know what you're talking about at all! Old shibboleths,now discredited old psychology bunkum,and drivel from your own imaginings just don't cut it and no,I am not a homosexual/lesbian and have no dog in this fight. I just am far better read on this topic than you.
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