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Cheney Backs Freedom for Gay Relationships
AP ^ | 8-24-04

Posted on 08/24/2004 1:43:08 PM PDT by ambrose

Posted on Tue, Aug. 24, 2004

Cheney Backs Freedom for Gay Relationships

TODD DVORAK

Associated Press

DAVENPORT, Iowa - Vice President Dick Cheney, whose daughter Mary is a lesbian, spoke supportively about gay relationships on Tuesday, saying "freedom means freedom for everyone."

At a campaign rally in this Mississippi River town, Cheney was asked about his stand on gay marriage - an issue for which his boss, President Bush, has pushed for a constitutional amendment to ban such unions.

"Lynne and I have a gay daughter, so it's an issue our family is very familiar with," Cheney said. "With the respect to the question of relationships, my general view is freedom means freedom for everyone ... People ought to be free to enter into any kind of relationship they want to.

"The question that comes up with the issue of marriage is what kind of official sanction or approval is going to be granted by government? Historically, that's been a relationship that has been handled by the states. The states have made that fundamental decision of what constitutes a marriage," he said.

Bush backs a constitutional amendment prohibiting gay marriage, a move Cheney says was prompted by various judicial rulings, including the action in Massachusetts that made gay marriage legal.

"I think his perception was that the courts, in effect, were beginning to change, without allowing the people to be involved," Cheney said. "The courts were making the judgment for the entire country."

That stand put Cheney at odds with his wife. Last month, Lynne Cheney said states should have the final say over the legal status of personal relationships, a comment that came just days before the Senate failed to back the ban.

Cheney said the amendment did not have the votes to pass, but he also said the federal Defense of Marriage Act, which President Clinton signed into law in 1996, may be sufficient to resolve the issue.

The Cheneys have two daughters, both of whom are working on the campaign. Mary Cheney is director of vice presidential operations for the Bush-Cheney re-election campaign. She held a public role as her father's assistant in the 2000 campaign and helped the GOP recruit gay voters during the 2002 midterm elections.

During the 2000 campaign, vice presidential candidate Dick Cheney took the position that states should decide legal issues about personal relationships and that people should be free to enter relationships of their choosing.

While Bush and Cheney back the proposed constitutional amendment, their Democratic rivals, Sens. John Kerry of Massachusetts and John Edwards of North Carolina, oppose the amendment.

The Democrats also oppose gay marriage, but defend a gay couple's rights to the same legal protections as those conferred in marriage.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: dickcheney; gayvote; homosexualagenda; issues; marriageamendment; marycheney; samesexunions
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To: NoControllingLegalAuthority

I agree with you that homosexuality is not a "nuance."
But my message did not describe it as such. Again, you must read more carefully. By "nuance," I clearly referred to the fine points of what Cheney was saying or not saying, not to homosexuality itself.


221 posted on 08/24/2004 6:02:53 PM PDT by California Patriot (California Patriot)
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To: SuziQ; All
I wonder about the support system among those in the room; a relationship of mutual respect between two people of the same sex or an opposite sex relationship with spousal abuse?
222 posted on 08/24/2004 6:17:39 PM PDT by olde north church
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To: Howlin
They've been saying the same thing since 1999; it's their daughter, FGS.""

Figures you'd be for gay marriage. Liberal.

223 posted on 08/24/2004 6:59:14 PM PDT by churchillbuff
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To: churchillbuff
Figures you'd be for gay marriage. Liberal.

I never said any such thing.

But, of course, you are a documented liar.

224 posted on 08/24/2004 7:04:46 PM PDT by Howlin (John Kerry & John Edwards: Political Malpractice)
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To: TigersEye
I've been wondering. Do you avoid reasoned argument because you're too stupid to engage in it or are you just a coward? Your baseless accusations and pathetic insults are boring.

Gosh, this is weird: you and I actually agree on something. :-)

225 posted on 08/24/2004 7:05:44 PM PDT by Howlin (John Kerry & John Edwards: Political Malpractice)
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To: starboardlist

Try reading the post,before your answer a different query. LOL


227 posted on 08/24/2004 8:39:01 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: Zack Nguyen
Homosexual relationships certainly create undefined legal status, particularly if children are involved, or if the homosexual couple wants to have children by another father or mother.

Why is that? What is the (legal, not ethical) difference between a heterosexual or a homosexual couple adopting a child? In both cases you have to distinguish between birth mother & father as well as custodial parents.

Yet homosexual behavior is a horrible public health hazard, responsible for the deaths of hundreds of thousands of people

Huh? Like what? Don't give me HIV and other STDs. This has nothing to do with homosexuality but everything with promiscuity and unprotected sex.
228 posted on 08/24/2004 9:02:16 PM PDT by drtom
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To: KQQL

Cheney's position is close to mine, except that I support nationalized gay marriage, but only if done by the legislative branch, and signed by the executive.


229 posted on 08/24/2004 9:51:29 PM PDT by Torie
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To: Lurking2Long

Last time I checked, JimRob decides that, not you.


230 posted on 08/24/2004 11:50:23 PM PDT by Bella_Bru (It's for the children = It takes a village)
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To: Howlin
Gosh, this is weird: you and I actually agree on something. :-)

Stranger than truth ain't it? ; )

I'm sorry to hear about your nephew. My condolences to you and your family.

231 posted on 08/25/2004 4:37:04 AM PDT by TigersEye (Intellectuals only exist if you think they do!)
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To: jerrydavenport

"But if you want to indulge in personal attacks, i suggest you dedicate a separate thread to it."

And then a classic: "Btw you do realize that you are sick and need professional help."

You're either suspended, in which case we get to go over why there are SO many things wrong with your two statements here, or you're banned and we are reprieved from having to hear such statements from you as "I was away for seven days to show you how little I think of you."


234 posted on 08/25/2004 4:58:07 AM PDT by Darksheare (Who are all these mimes, why are they in the woods, and did you know they taste like chicken?)
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To: Lurking2Long

"Dear, it's time to take your medication again..."

How about discussing issues and keep the personal attacks to yourself, OK?


236 posted on 08/25/2004 6:36:09 AM PDT by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: wideawake

There is no way to make what he said pretty. Unless he said more than I've heard and that was edited.


237 posted on 08/25/2004 7:21:21 AM PDT by biblewonk (neither said any of them that aught of the things which he possessed was his own)
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To: biblewonk
I disagree with what he said and I think he was dead wrong.

But I don't think it amounts to a blanket endorsement of sodomy.

238 posted on 08/25/2004 7:23:15 AM PDT by wideawake (God bless our brave soldiers and their Commander in Chief)
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To: jojodamofo

Yup.


239 posted on 08/25/2004 7:24:11 AM PDT by wideawake (God bless our brave soldiers and their Commander in Chief)
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To: Ann Archy
"all because of their sicko daughter"

Prove she's sicko. What exactly is "sicko" anyway? What makes you so healthy? I thought Christ loves everyone, sicko's included. Being a homosexual might be a sin (allowing that EVERYTHING in the bible is unquestionably accurate, true, etc.), but it didn't even make one of the 10 commandments. On the sin-meter, that puts it right up there with "don't beat your slaves" and "forgive your debters every 7 years" (or however that goes).

I'm disappointed in Cheney for not speaking his mind sooner on the matter.
240 posted on 08/25/2004 7:31:29 AM PDT by mudblood
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