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Keyes: 'The victory is for God'
Chicago Sun Times ^ | August 22, 2004 | BY CATHLEEN FALSANI Religion Reporter

Posted on 08/22/2004 6:15:20 PM PDT by EternalVigilance

First impressions can be misleading.

Two weeks ago, a wild-eyed Alan Keyes stood in front of news cameras in a hot, crowded Arlington Heights banquet hall sweating profusely, yelling and shaking his fist as he enthusiastically accepted the Republican nomination to run for U.S. Senate in Illinois.

"I will promise you a battle like this nation has never seen," Keyes shouted with the passion of a preacher talking about spiritual combat with the forces of evil, thrusting his fist heavenward for emphasis. "The battle is for us, but I have confidence because the victory IS FOR GOD!"

A few days after he delivered the fiery speech that was replayed time and again on television newscasts across the nation, a decidedly different Alan Keyes is seated behind the desk of a spartan office in what was until recently the Jack Ryan for Senate headquarters on North Clinton in Chicago.

On this particular afternoon, the 54-year-old Maryland conservative, political pundit and two-time presidential hopeful is about to spend more than an hour, one-on-one with a reporter, in an interview about his personal faith.

He's in tie and shirtsleeves, leaning back casually in his chair. Two small, gold charms -- a crucifix and twin Ten Commandment tablets -- that usually dangle from a long gold chain are tucked into his breast pocket, the chain pulled across his chest at an angle giving him just the faintest air of a bishop.

"The boss and the rules," he'll quip later as he pulls the charms out of his pocket and allows them to fall on top of his silk tie.

Whether his mood is irascible or reflective, Keyes, a lifelong Roman Catholic, wears his faith on his sleeve as well as around his neck.

When asked to describe himself spiritually, Keyes is reasoned, sincerely thoughtful and significantly more reserved than that man behind the lectern on TV.

"Well, in the fullest sense, I describe myself as a Christian," he says. "I believe that Jesus Christ is the son of God, came amongst men in order to redeem us from original sin and to offer us a way to his father, which he offered us in his words and examples and exposed to us the truth: that God loves us as individuals and knows our weaknesses because Christ has experienced them.

"And therefore, with really infinite understanding and mercy, is ready to welcome us into his home if we are willing to turn around and accept his grace," he says.

How does he define what a Christian is?

"One of the essential characteristics of Christianity is that it is about faith. Christ often says, 'Your faith has saved you,' to people. And that means that your willingness to acknowledge in truth the authority of God and the mercy of God in the person of Jesus Christ, is the route to salvation," he says, without hesitation.

"We are transformed by our knowledge of Christ, and that's why there is going to be a manifestation in us of that change, which shows itself in the different way we start to relate to people."

Cradle Catholic

Born in a New York military hospital in 1950 while his father was serving in Korea, Keyes describes himself as an "Army brat." Along with his sister and three brothers, he was raised on military bases across the United States, and, for a time, in Italy.

His parents, Alison and Gerthina, both now deceased, were converts to Roman Catholicism.

Keyes says his first concept of what God is like is inextricably bound to Catholicism.

"My earliest idea that I remember was Jesus Christ, he was my idea of what God was like," he says. "When you grow up Catholic, I remember being encouraged to think of Jesus as your friend. Just a friend, like the friends you had on the playground, or in school. And I can remember that that was a part of my developing thought life when I was a child, having conversations with Jesus in my head, as if he were one of my playmates. . . . He was a child, just like me."

And now what does he think God is like?

"He's grown up," Keyes, who is married with three children, says, busting out in a belly laugh. "He's grown up. And I hope, I've grown up a bit. But I think that depth of it hasn't changed. We go through 'times.' We advance, we retreat, we struggle, we wrestle."

Keyes insists his faith has remained fairly constant throughout his life, though there were times when he says he felt more distant from his faith than he does today.

"I think the Bible is right [when] it says that you raise up a child in the way he should go, and when he is old, he will not depart from it," Keyes says, paraphrasing a passage from the 22nd chapter of the Biblical book of Proverbs. "That obviously implies -- doesn't it? -- a kind of gap. There's something in youth that somehow implies that people do depart from it a little bit. But if you raise them in the way they should go, then the roots take over again. And one returns."

When he was a doctoral student in the late 1970s at Harvard working on his dissertation about constitutional theory, Keyes says, he struggled a bit spiritually.

"When you're a graduate student, you go through your ups and downs and sometimes you hit really great lows. Some people, as a result of that, give up and they never reach their degree," he recalls. "At a moment of crisis for me -- I'll never forget -- I was feeling just that low, sort of thinking, 'I've been working at it and I'm never going to finish and it's just hopeless.'

"I called my mom, and that conversation, in which she really did nothing but listen to me and remind me that I'd gotten through different things in my life through faith -- sparked an experience I still remember," he says, his voice breaking with emotion. "And it transformed my sense of what my faith meant to me."

He received his Ph.D. in government from Harvard in 1979. He also earned his undergraduate degree from Harvard in 1972.

Keyes describes a mild crisis of faith that had grown alongside his intellectual pursuits.

"In American academics, it's difficult to be a person of faith. There's a certain kind of patronizing, a sense of, 'Oh, you'll grow out of it,' " he says.

"So you begin to push your faith into the background, and maybe not really want to show it and so forth and so on. You start to doubt whether or not you are being intellectually honest if you are relying on premises of faith."

It's a conundrum Keyes seems to have resolved with a vengeance.

The word became flesh

Keyes would never make himself out to be some sort of Biblical scholar, but when it comes to Scripture, he knows what he's talking about.

He reads Greek -- he travels with a laptop loaded with Bible software, including a copy of the Septuagint, the Greek version of Hebrew Scriptures -- and can wax eloquent at length about the etymology of certain words and how they correspond to theological principles.

"I try to read or think about some element of the Bible every day," he says, leaning back in his office chair, and propping his feet up on the desk.

When asked what portion of the Bible he most enjoys reading, he says, without hesitation, "Genesis."

"I often tell people that my greatest problem in the Bible is that in any serious way I've never been able to get past Genesis," he says, chuckling. "Now, I have read the whole Bible and I read other books, but what I mean is the book that I keep going back to over and over again is Genesis.

"For the longest time, I was really going back over and over again, thinking and writing about, the creation myths, because it seemed to me that there's an enormous depth of kind of philosophical implication," he says.

In addition to his Biblical studies, Keyes is a philosophy buff.

"People will think this is strange I suppose, but . . . there are books like Kant's Critique of Pure Reason and Hegel's Logic and things like that, and every once in a while I get hit by this mood and I have to wrestle with these books that are very abstract and that are kind of philosophy in the viewless realms where you are really dealing with concepts that have no corresponding material images or anything to go along with it," he says, excitedly. "You just have to go with pure concepts to think about things. And I think, in the sense of that kind of philosophical thinking, meditation and reasoning, Genesis is an enormously powerful experience."

This launches Keyes into a 20-minute discussion of what he describes as his latest "breakthrough" in examining a portion of Biblical text.

Specifically, the candidate says for four or five months he had been reading, re-reading and picking apart several dozen verses from the 4th, 5th and 6th chapters of Genesis, beginning with one of those "begat" passages.

So and so, son of so and so, begat so and so, father of so and so, who begat.. ..

These particular begat passages start with a descendant of Cain, the son of Adam and Eve who murders his brother Abel, and end with Noah -- the fellow with the ark.

With an almost childlike enthusiasm, Keyes recounts how he traced the lineage of Noah and the descendants of Cain, examined the ancient roots of certain words, and learned, according to his interpretation, that God's covenant with Noah after the flood included the institution of capital punishment for the first time.

"It's fascinating, don't you think?" Keyes asks, smiling broadly, when he's concluded an exegesis of the text that, at least in its methodology, would give any seminary professor or preacher a serious run for his money.

A boundless sorrow

Keyes could be a preacher, a Biblical scholar, or professional apologist for Christ. But instead, he's chosen to enter the secular political realm.

Why choose a field that can so often obfuscate faith?

It's a question, apparently, that moves Keyes to tears.

His eyes turn red, he stops talking for several minutes, stares at the ceiling, drums his fingers on the desk, and apologizes for his loss of composure.

After several attempts to begin speaking, only to have his voice crack with emotion, Keyes tries again to explain what he's feeling.

"I'm sorry, I'm getting a grip," he says, eyes red with tears. "When I was young, I encountered a problem, I guess. A challenge. And I guess it was an encounter that disillusioned me, yes, in the literal sense. And that was my first encounter with the reality -- intellectually and emotionally . . ." he pauses again, his voice trailing off for a few moments. " . . . Of what the slave experience meant to my ancestors. And I think I've been working that out ever since.''

When pressed to explain just what this "encounter" was, Keyes reveals that it was, in fact, an intellectual incident.

When he was about 15, he read Lerone Bennett's book Before the Mayflower: A History of the Negro in America, 1619-1964. And it broke his heart, he says.

"It's sorrow," he says, explaining why 40 years later he's still so emotional about something he read as a teenager. "It's not a sorrow for yourself, it's not a sorrow for individuals, it's a sorrow for the reality of our kind of sad experience . . . of life without God."

And it's that sorrow and outrage that in part has led him into politics, Keyes says.

"It's a problem of justice and to understand it and resolve it somehow is not an intellectual exercise. You have to meet the challenge of it in your own time and life. And at some level, that's what politics remains at its heart, in America," he explains.

"It's impossible to be a Christian and really live out your relationship with God apart from life and action," he says. "And that action requires that you kind of be aware of and sensitive to how in fact the injustice that was involved in slavery is like one of those difficult plants where you cut off what appears on the surface but the root is still there. And it springs up again in another place, in what seems like another form, but it is the same evil. It's the same root."

Christus victor?

So, what did he mean, exactly, back at that podium in Arlington Heights, when he exclaimed that "the victory is for God"?

Was he saying God is on his side -- the side of the righteous -- and not on that of his Democratic opponent, Barack Obama, a man who professes the same Christian faith?

"Well, professing is the operative word," Keyes says, in a moment of snarkiness conspicuously absent from the rest of the interview.

"I thought it was pretty clear. Maybe it wasn't," he says, reflecting on his acceptance speech a few days earlier. "What I meant by it was the victory is in God's hands for his will and decision. That's why I couldn't promise it to people. I might lose. I don't know. None of us knows.

"The notion that you can stand there and say, 'Rah! We're gonna win!' I know you're supposed to do that, but I find it very difficult to say stuff that I know, even if it's rhetorical, is not true," he says.

Keyes is puzzled by the idea that some people would be afraid of the notion of "God on our side."

"I rather want people to think God is on their side, because that means they know he's watching them, and that his rules still apply to what they do," he says, smiling. "I hope that's the result."

"I often tell people that my greatest problem in the Bible is that in any serious way I've never been able to get past Genesis. Now, I have read the whole Bible and I read other books, but what I mean is the book I keep going back to over and over again is Genesis."

http://www.suntimes.com/output/falsani/cst-nws-keyes22.html


TOPICS: Philosophy; Politics/Elections; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: keyes; thengodmustbealoser
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To: EternalVigilance
No, what you don't realize is that the Keyes campaign is just toxic to the future of IL republicans. No one likes a fringe proven loser, and they will associate it with the party that stupidly brought him in as a carpetbagger negatively.

Take the blinders off, and think,the whole nation is not a bunch of Keyes yes-men, far from it. Do the math.

421 posted on 08/23/2004 8:46:54 PM PDT by Central Scrutiniser (Everybody wants prostethic foreheads on their real heads...)
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To: Central Scrutiniser

Way back when, before I knew what Keyes stood for, I sensed he was crazy.

My opinion has not changed.


422 posted on 08/23/2004 8:48:48 PM PDT by Bluntpoint
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To: EternalVigilance
EV;That's all I'm saying about it, other than to call liars liars here when they lie.

Right. And as we all know your definition of a "lie" is anything you don't want to hear. Too funny.

423 posted on 08/23/2004 8:49:25 PM PDT by Jorge
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To: EternalVigilance
I attack Keyes because he is a proven loser, time and time again! Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me!

Explain how it is a good thing to have a proven loser like Keyes, who has never garnered the support of an electable base, running in this election? If you cared about beating the dreaded Obama, you would be angry that the IL Republican party couldn't put up anyone better than Keyes! But, evidently your love of Keyes is cult like, you can always hand out flowers at O'Hare and Midway.

424 posted on 08/23/2004 8:51:05 PM PDT by Central Scrutiniser (Everybody wants prostethic foreheads on their real heads...)
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To: Bluntpoint

Keyes has done nothing to broaden his base since day one, its been a salted earth alienation of voters ever since then. And he hurts the Republican party each day.


425 posted on 08/23/2004 8:52:24 PM PDT by Central Scrutiniser (Everybody wants prostethic foreheads on their real heads...)
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To: Jim Robinson

As long as these people have a free hand to attack and slander conservatives, I won't be posting on your site any longer.

It's been a good run, and I wish you the best. You and yours will remain in my prayers.

EV


426 posted on 08/23/2004 8:53:14 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (A REPUBLIC, IF YOU CAN KEEP IT...)
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To: Central Scrutiniser

All that and crazy too!


427 posted on 08/23/2004 8:54:23 PM PDT by Bluntpoint
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To: EternalVigilance

See you tommorrow.


428 posted on 08/23/2004 8:55:14 PM PDT by Bluntpoint
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To: EternalVigilance
Oh please, if you can't argue politics, and have to quit, are your convictions that strong? We debated, you called people names. We asked questions, you ducked and called names. Now, when you won't answer questions, or consider an opposing position, you go running away?

Is your character so weak you have to quit when others don't think the way you do? You wouldn't make much of a leader, I am embarassed for you.

429 posted on 08/23/2004 8:57:06 PM PDT by Central Scrutiniser (Everybody wants prostethic foreheads on their real heads...)
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To: EternalVigilance

Free speech is tough, learn to appreciate it.


430 posted on 08/23/2004 8:57:46 PM PDT by Central Scrutiniser (Everybody wants prostethic foreheads on their real heads...)
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To: EternalVigilance

"I don't agree with the triangulation strategies employed repeatedly... "

So as you said, you really and truly are not a "bush republican" AND you really "don't agree with" him relative to domestic issues.
and this is not a small thing with you... it is in fact something that happens "repeatedly."


Your support of Bush has not really changed... because in a measure unheard of by THIS republican... you really don't support him but on a few things at all... just exactly like Alan does not.

No wonder alan is in trouble.


431 posted on 08/23/2004 9:02:01 PM PDT by Robert_Paulson2 (the madridification of our election is now officially underway.)
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To: Central Scrutiniser
But, evidently your love of Keyes is cult like, you can always hand out flowers at O'Hare and Midway.

Or shriek Keyes fire and brimstone rants in a New York subway dressed in black with clenched fist and ashen skin.....

432 posted on 08/23/2004 9:04:03 PM PDT by Jorge
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To: EternalVigilance; central scrutinizer; Amelia; Luis Gonzalez; Robert_Paulson2; tpaine
Please explain,in detail,HOW posts to FR,are helping Obama.

The vast majority of posters,including YOU,don't live in Ill.and are therefore unable to vote in this race.

I said,any times,that I AM attempting to get Conservatives and GOPers to vote for Keyes.You have laughed at and sneered and insulted me continually,when I've pointed that out.Now,you claim that after the primaries,you,YOU made Keyes supporters vote for Bush.Well,guess what? I DON'T BELIEVE YOU DID THAT AT ALL! Why should I or anyone else,for that matter?

Long before you were ever able to vote,I was a Conservative and working on getting GOPers elected.I've NEVER voted for a Dem,nor have I ever sat out an election. Through time,effort,and money,I helped Reagan win Ill.; TWICE! But none of THAT is worth a damn,in your book.

I have a suggestion for you EV...look at the posters who were once Keyes fans and look,REALLY LOOK at who they are.Many have fought each other for years on end,on other topics.Some are enemies,who have NEVER agreed about anything...before.Now they are all in agreement and their numbers are growing daily.

If Keyes and his followers here turn off so many of the political junkies, what is he doing to the "average" man,who doesn't pay all that much attention? If he would only take some well meaning advice,he'd have a much better chance to actually get through/attract more people.Can't YOU talk to him? And I don't mean that he needs to change his beliefs...just learn how to BE a candidate,instead of someone who acts like a KOOK on a soapbox screaming down the LORD'S wrath and playing a race hustler a la Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton with that tax relief reparations scam.

433 posted on 08/23/2004 9:05:42 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: Luis Gonzalez

Let me tell you.........he's a VERY hard sell to Conservative and staunch GOP voters in Ill.! I've had to dance through hoops. Should he make any more crazy statements,I'll NEVER get those votes back.


434 posted on 08/23/2004 9:08:26 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: Jorge
Its good to know that some conservatives do their damnest to live down to the worst stereotypes that the left define them at. If EV has to duck out of a political discussion with fellow conservatives and quit and take his football home, then maybe he should revisit his convictions, because if they are that brittle, they are gonna be broken often.

What is it with Keyes and Buchanan supporters? The hysterical blindness they inflict on themselves is puzzling.

435 posted on 08/23/2004 9:11:38 PM PDT by Central Scrutiniser (Everybody wants prostethic foreheads on their real heads...)
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To: nopardons

How many seats in the house are impacted by the Senatorial race? Any word from the phone bank leadership?
Anybody else there having trouble reigning in the fiscal conservatives?

Northern seats were toast anyway... but how about down south?


436 posted on 08/23/2004 9:11:50 PM PDT by Robert_Paulson2 (the madridification of our election is now officially underway.)
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To: Robert_Paulson2

Didn't work today,so I don't have any stats and I'm taking a break,because I've really about had it.


437 posted on 08/23/2004 9:14:48 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: Central Scrutiniser

Religion in politics can drive folks crazy.

Folks screaming "Onward Christian Soldiers" get pretty crazy when they turn around and see that nobody wants to follow them down to city hall in protest of a statue or lack thereof.


438 posted on 08/23/2004 9:18:56 PM PDT by Robert_Paulson2 (the madridification of our election is now officially underway.)
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To: Bluntpoint

Think he will use the same screen name or a different one?


439 posted on 08/23/2004 9:29:10 PM PDT by Robert_Paulson2 (the madridification of our election is now officially underway.)
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To: EternalVigilance
"How do I know this? I was Alan's national political director, as most here know."

I guess I'm not "most". Let me make a subtle suggestion to you. You haven't done a darn thing to convince me to follow you or Alan, since the Republican convention of 2000. Nor has most anything that Alan has said since then. In fact, what I normally read here, makes me want to run as far away as I can.

I'm reading Ronald Reagan's autobiography now. There are very few tactics that I've seen exhibited by Alan's follower's in Reagan's political thought. Reagan was a brilliant statesman and politician. But he WAS a politician. He knew what was possible, and he learned that he had to lose some battles to win the war.

And Reagan would NEVER have published an article entitled:

"I AM NOT A FORD REPUBLICAN!"

440 posted on 08/23/2004 9:45:56 PM PDT by A Citizen Reporter ("It's the Hypocrisy, Stupid,")
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