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JOe Scarborough: A Media Double Standard
MSNBC ^ | Joe Scarbrough

Posted on 08/22/2004 3:55:44 PM PDT by bjcoop

Edited on 08/22/2004 4:06:50 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

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To: bjcoop
Ok, here's what my husband (a Swiftie OinC of the "Kerry Era" and USNA graduate on active duty for 26 years) and I would like to know: President Bush flew the F-102 aircraft during his Air National Guard days. The F-102 was notorious for its ability to make widows on a regular basis, as in, "Why was this aircraft ever certified in the first place?!"

What we'd like to know is this: How many men were killed qualifying/training in the F-102 (Air National Guard and USAF) vs. how many men were killed "driving" Swift boats in Viet Nam. Hubby did a FULL tour on Swifts at about the same time as Kerry (hubby was further north). He doesn't recall an overwhelming number of OinC's buying the farm. Anyone have any statistics on this?

21 posted on 08/22/2004 4:55:01 PM PDT by BillaryBeGone
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To: Jeff Head

Clinton had tons of skeletons and the media in cahoots with him. So he just said nothing most of the time whenever things got too hot and let the press divert to covering the OJ Simpson Trial or whatever.

Kerry is brain dead.


22 posted on 08/22/2004 4:58:43 PM PDT by Luke21 (Christ is wonderful)
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To: BillaryBeGone

I believe Don Evans has an amazing story about Dubya's heroic piloting of their plane. He is convinced that Dubya's cool expertise saved their lives.


23 posted on 08/22/2004 5:01:09 PM PDT by OldFriend (WAR IS THE REMEDY OUR ENEMIES HAVE CHOSEN)
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To: Luke21

If it was only Kerry's brain that was missing it wouldn't be too bad. It's the lack of soul and heart that is so troubling.


24 posted on 08/22/2004 5:02:16 PM PDT by OldFriend (WAR IS THE REMEDY OUR ENEMIES HAVE CHOSEN)
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To: bjcoop
I agree with some of Scarborough's comments, but not this:

The only way to do that is for John Kerry to continue confronting these attacks as sleazy hit pieces. He needs to let Americans (preferably in swing states) know how these ads break his heart. "Not only are their attacks hurtful to me and my family. They are also slandering those band of brothers who risked their lives alongside of me in Vietnam. And to me, that is unforgiveable."

Nah, Kerry should have taken the moral high ground and said that while he appreciates their service to this country, his recollections differ from theirs. Instead, he's bashing not only veterans but POWs!

25 posted on 08/22/2004 5:09:16 PM PDT by NYCVirago
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To: BillaryBeGone

Scarborough is on live tonight.


26 posted on 08/22/2004 5:10:13 PM PDT by YaYa123 (@Iraq Is Critical.com)
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To: bjcoop
Just heard Joey say that the Chicago Tribune is "certainly not a liberal newspaper." That new rug of his must be cutting off circulation to the brain.

Michael M. Bates: My Side of the Swamp

27 posted on 08/22/2004 5:12:00 PM PDT by Mike Bates (Did I mention I'm peddling a book?)
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To: YaYa123
He just had the editor of the Chicago Tribune on, and he asked him how come Bill Reed (the Vet who came out yesterday, trying to defend Kerry's silver star) decided to come forward now.

Rather than admit the truth, that Kerry had called Reed and asked him to help, he went off on some bogus story about the guy feeling it was his duty as a citizen.

Too bad Joe doesn't have the facts to get to the bottom of this.

28 posted on 08/22/2004 5:13:37 PM PDT by rocklobster11
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To: rocklobster11

Bill Rood, not Reed ;)


29 posted on 08/22/2004 5:14:08 PM PDT by rocklobster11
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To: rocklobster11
right about JOe not having his facts straight tonight. He was very confusing on which medal and which incident Roon was coming forward about. Roon was NOT on one of the 5 boats the day Rassmun was thrown overboard, and Kerry got the Bronze Star, but from Joe's set up piece, you might have thought Roon was disputing the Swifties on this incident. He was not.

The Washington Post reporter said specifically that they had found no evidence linking Bush to the Swifties.

30 posted on 08/22/2004 5:17:55 PM PDT by YaYa123 (@Iraq Is Critical.com)
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To: bjcoop

"So Bush stays on the high road while Kerry goes on attack and bleeds support because of these ads. The Kerry camp must change this political dynamic quickly. "

Stop giving them advice Scarboough, we don't want them to win.


31 posted on 08/22/2004 5:21:56 PM PDT by diamond6 (Everyone who is for abortion has already been born. Ronald Reagan)
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To: Mike Bates
Michael Meehan, Kerry campaign honcho says of Bob Dole's comments today on CNN:

'It's pretty sad, says Meehan, Kerry's still walking around with schrapnel, Bob Dole has a problem with Navy medals, Bob Dole should take it up with the navy. Kerry volunteered for 2 tours in Viet Nam, he says. ????

Meehan says White HOuse put Bob Dole out there, and Bush is putting out a new ad tomorrow.

Jennifer Millerwise, Bush Cheney Dep Communications Director, denies that allegation. "Tied up in knots", is how Jennifer describes the KErry campaign, she says the Kerry campaign has ACT people in Ohio doing their work for them, all the moveon.org money....

Jennifer comments on the Kerry ad: We've condemned all 520 ads, and we've asked Kerry to do the same, we think it's wrong, we've been at the receiving end of 62 million dollars worth of these ads. She lists off all the things the Bush campaign wants to talk about, not Viet Nam.

Meehan on why Harold Ickes can get away with putting on ads for his ACT foundation, in cahoots with the Kerry campaign. blah blah, I cna't keep up with his spin.

32 posted on 08/22/2004 5:28:45 PM PDT by YaYa123 (@Iraq Is Critical.com)
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To: rocklobster11
I"m glad Jennifer listed Joe Jordan and Harold Ickes illegally connected to 527s and the Kerry campaign. She forgot Joe Podesta. He has a separate organization too, he was on ABC this morning, defending Kerry.

Hackworth will be on Scarborough tomorrow. Hackworth is a HACK, first class.

33 posted on 08/22/2004 5:31:15 PM PDT by YaYa123 (@Iraq Is Critical.com)
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To: YaYa123
blah blah, I cna't keep up with his spin.

As a rule, when a 'Rat's lips are moving, he's lyin'.

34 posted on 08/22/2004 5:32:15 PM PDT by Mike Bates (Did I mention I'm peddling a book?)
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To: bjcoop

Can anyone say "Kerry's Senate Record" he has done a masterful job in drawing attention away from the real issue...his very ultra liberal voting record


35 posted on 08/22/2004 5:34:51 PM PDT by Burlem
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To: Mike Bates
Jennifer made so many good points about the Kerry campaign's "revolving doore" close connections to 527s, but Joe doesn't make Meehan respond.
36 posted on 08/22/2004 5:45:46 PM PDT by YaYa123 (@Meehan's Head Did Not Explode..But He Did Not Get Challenged By Joe.com)
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To: lancer

Of course you're correct....

It's just that we old farts are still fighting "our war"...
The leftists in our nation, and Kerry in particular, have still not been "dealt with" properly - from OUR perspective...

I care not if Kerry is unmasked and defeated for his actions 30+ years ago - or his current treacheries.... I just want him unmasked, throughly defeated and humiliated - as he encouraged the American public to think of us on our return home....

Then, I want some old farts to grab him by his $100 haircut, drag him to the Wall on the Mall and have him apologize in person to all our brothers that he slandered as they still fought or laid in their graves..

I, for one, will NEVER forgive the bastard, or those that stood with him.... NEVER, NEVER, NEVER......


Semper Fi


37 posted on 08/22/2004 5:46:47 PM PDT by river rat (You may turn the other cheek...But I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: bjcoop

I won’t be surprised if the media doesn’t mention the fact that Zell Miller is a democrat. It would be against everything they believe in. After all, it is the republicans who are suppose to be jumping ship, at least according to NBC.

NBC is also saying Bush is not welcome at the Olympics. http://www.drudgereport.com/flashat.htm
They just want a piece of Kerry’s 527 money ($125 Million), and say anything to get some.


38 posted on 08/22/2004 5:53:25 PM PDT by JeffersonRepublic.com
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To: bert
They know he is the conqueror of Afganistan and Baghdad.

I prefer to think of GW as the LIBERATOR of Afganistan and Iraq.

39 posted on 08/22/2004 5:53:40 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham (Havoc be upon them!)
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To: river rat

I agree with you 110%, but it's bigger than even that. We are talking about the demise of our culture and our nation if this scumbag and his crew of America haters take power.


40 posted on 08/22/2004 6:02:07 PM PDT by lancer (If you are not with us, you are against us!)
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