Posted on 08/13/2004 5:24:43 AM PDT by Hatteras
Mom Sent To Jail For Smoking Around Kids
POSTED: 6:43 am EDT August 13, 2004
BOWLING GREEN, Va. -- A woman was sentenced Thursday to 10 days in jail for defying a court order not to smoke around her children.
Tamara Silvius was banned last year from smoking around the youths, now ages 8 and 10, as part of a custody arrangement with her ex-husband.
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If you think I'm advocating anarchy, you'd better go back, cool off, and read what I wrote before responding. What I'm trying to observe here is that an individual cannot pick and choose which laws, or which court mandates, he wants to obey. Laws and court mandates may (and indeed, will) of necessity prove sometimes to be onerous, unjust, or simply wrong. But in a free society, one must work one's grievances against the system in a due manner. The alternative is anarchy, which is far more unpleasant than simple tyranny.
You're right, you have. Sorry.
Second-hand smoke may be a health-hazard for asthmatics, but so are perfumes and household cleaning products, which can also cause breathing difficulties. I have a brother who is severely asthmatic and can't be within sniffing range of the heavily-perfumed or even cat-owners (off-the-charts allergy to the dander). I see no reason for laws restricting smoking because some people necessarily must avoid it.
Amen! :)
"If second hand smoke kills, then anyone who actually inhales the full, undiluted smoke into their lungs, should be dead in a year."
Agreed! And since smoking is addictive, why has no one become addicted to secone hand smoke? I smoked for 30 years and never had a problem with second hand smoke.
(One FReeper has a tag line that reads: "More people have died from Ted Kennedy's driving than from second hand smoke.")
do not believe it is fair, however, to force non-smokers to "go somewhere else" if they don't feel like smelling the stench of self-polluting smokers.
Why then are the raving nutter antis now going after outdoor smoking at restaurants? They got their way, they can happily sit inside without worrying about the smokers, must they dictate outdoor activities as well?
You bring up cancer. No biases there in any of those studies.
Let me ask you something. Do you support tobacco taxes? If so, why? If the ultimate goal is to force smokers to give it up by raising the price, what will you do when your money pot is dry? Find some new 'sin' to tax?
Guess what -- most Americans are pretty close to the center on social and political issues.
Yeah, that's why abortion is still legal. Is that a good thing too, because the majority are centrist, and as you have said, the majority should get their way?
Where, in the article, does it define what "smoking around the children" means? As I posted earlier, she could very well have stepped outside to smoke, and her children went home and told daddy that mommy was smoking again.
I maintain there is not enough information in this article to pass judgement against her, because the article is obviously slanted against smoking. Why else include the judge talking about the "known health risks of second hand smoke?"
Also, for the judge to cite this point, especially when the woman is being jailed for defying a court order, looks an awful lot like "social engineering from the bench."
Let's use some common sense here: smoking does not impair the mental capability. Drinking does.
I would much rather pass a smoker on the HWY any day then a drinker. How about you.
I guess the children can clear it up when asked.
I'd rather die on my feet then live on my knees. It appears some are willing to blindly follow laws without thinking about them.
ETS doesn't cause asthma.
While I deplore what the judge said about second hand smoke in his ruling, I completely agree with the fact she violated the custody agreement.
However, what irritates me to no end is the presumption the women actually smoked in the same room with the children. If the custody agreement is so loosely worded as to use the term "smoking around the children" then she could very well be in trouble because she was where her kids could see her smoking, but not necessarily in the same room with the kids.
or to stupid to think about consequences of their actions...I'll take my knees anyday, the view of God is best from there.
As for dying on your feet, have at it, if you're smoking it won't take long. Don't look for me in hell, I won't be there.
You're the one who is basing arguments on an article that contains insufficient information.
Do I think the woman violated the custody agreement? Evidently, yes, she did. Do I think she was a fool to agree to such a custody arrangement? Yes again.
However, what the judge said in his ruling has absolutely nothing to do with the violation of the custody order.
This alone should be enough to make one suspicous of the whole affair.
Oh, so I am going to hell for smoking? LMFAO. Hmmm...first off, not everyone is a Christian, but that is another fight. Second though, you must have some really jacked up form of Christianity to believe smokers go to hell.
NEWS FLASH: 55 million American's smoke. We outnumber the AARP and the NRA.
Jews don't kneel to pray. Guess in your opinion, G-d doesn't listen then, huh? LOL.
Moses was denied entrance to the promised land due to his arrogance.
You said a mouthful when you said that "abortion is still legal".
Is abortion a good thing? Hey - it's legal, isn't it? Just like smoking. Can't very well take away the right for a woman to do what she pleases to her body, now can we?
Oh, I see - we CAN advocate doing so when it's abortion, but we CANNOT advocate doing so when it's smoking.
I see the logic now. We can go round and round all day long....
A fetus has no choice to be aborted or not.
A child has no choice but to live in the house with the parents - whether they smoke or not.
You can stand up for the rights in one case, but not the other.
I choose to oppose both because neither are right.
Now who's showing consistency here - you or I?
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