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Mom Sent To Jail For Smoking Around Kids
WRAL Raleigh ^ | August 13, 2004 | Associated Press

Posted on 08/13/2004 5:24:43 AM PDT by Hatteras

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To: Rebelbase
Here's one you'll enjoy.

Oh yeaaaaaaa! hehe!

101 posted on 08/13/2004 10:03:08 AM PDT by SheLion (The terrorist are here.......living among us. It's too late to close the borders.)
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To: Don Simmons
By the same token, shouldn't we also stand up for the vulnerable children who HAVE BEEN brought into this world? When that world is a smoky, cancer-causing cesspool, I applaud that man for having the balls to have the "no smoking around the kids" clause put into the divorce decree.

I assume then that you also support EPA laws regarding auto emissions and industry?

102 posted on 08/13/2004 10:03:58 AM PDT by Bella_Bru (It's for the children = It takes a village)
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To: Just another Joe

Thanks for the ping, Joe!!


103 posted on 08/13/2004 10:04:05 AM PDT by SheLion (The terrorist are here.......living among us. It's too late to close the borders.)
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To: SheLion

>>What they've done is turn Nicholas into a little informant."

But its for a good cause, Komrad.


104 posted on 08/13/2004 10:04:30 AM PDT by swarthyguy
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To: CSM
While you are so supportive of ALL laws, do you support the laws making abortion legal? Do you also support the courts decision in Mass. that legalizes homosexual marriage?

No, like everyone else in the world, FReepers are just as guilty of saying "hooray for the courts" when they make a decision that fitsd their agenda.

105 posted on 08/13/2004 10:06:01 AM PDT by Bella_Bru (It's for the children = It takes a village)
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To: Fifth Business
You're right. It's a tyranny issue.

Just like preventing murder and the pro-life community are tyrannical.

It's restricting one person's rights ONLY where they infringe upon another person's. Our laws do this all the time.

You can smoke in your house, fine. Preventing you from smoking in a restaurant is not a tyrannical issue at all, but a health issue for those who don't wish to smoke. Our county just went smoke-free in all restaurants and it is a great thing. NO more do I leave smelling like crap because morons want to light up in public. It's a great thing indeed.

106 posted on 08/13/2004 10:12:49 AM PDT by HawkeyeLonewolf (Christian First, American Second)
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To: RinaseaofDs

I am about the most conservative person around and I am for pro-health, anti-smoking laws. Same as I am for other laws which prevent the rights of one person from infringing upon another.

But of course that's just plain common sense.


107 posted on 08/13/2004 10:15:07 AM PDT by HawkeyeLonewolf (Christian First, American Second)
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To: SheLion

Good question, Miss Lion! "They" are probably worried about having 75 million angry smokers after "them", many of those millions also being gun owners. Also, "they" like "their" tax revenues from tobacco. But maybe "they" are just "stoopid". :^)


108 posted on 08/13/2004 10:15:51 AM PDT by Argh
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To: Aquinasfan

That was extremely well put.


109 posted on 08/13/2004 10:16:21 AM PDT by Hi Heels
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To: Hatteras
jackbooted government thugs.

And Courts have too much power. They deserve some contempt once in awhile.

110 posted on 08/13/2004 10:18:11 AM PDT by Dan from Michigan ("When the chips were down, you could not count on John Kerry." - Swift Boat Veterans for Truth)
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To: HawkeyeLonewolf
Preventing you from smoking in a restaurant is not a tyrannical issue at all, but a health issue for those who don't wish to smoke.

Not for those who don't wish to smoke, but for those who don't wish to smoke AND wish to be served according to their wants regardless of the desires of the restaurant owner. I think I'll try to get a law passed that all restaurants must have Mediterranian food on the menu. Hey, it won't give me heart disease like most of the other offerings.

111 posted on 08/13/2004 10:21:34 AM PDT by SupplySider
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To: Kackikat
...smoking is also dangerous

So is crossing a street, driving, lifting heavy objects, wet surfaces, the weather, and many other things.

112 posted on 08/13/2004 10:22:17 AM PDT by Dan from Michigan ("When the chips were down, you could not count on John Kerry." - Swift Boat Veterans for Truth)
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To: SupplySider
You eating Mediterranean food doesn't endanger the health of those around you.

Next line of BS, please.
113 posted on 08/13/2004 10:22:49 AM PDT by HawkeyeLonewolf (Christian First, American Second)
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To: Hatteras

First, it IS a court order and she defied the court order. Thus, do the crime, do the time. Second, smoking kills. She should quit, but I use to smoke and understand the attraction. In fact, sometimes even now if I see someone smoking it's all I can do not to walk up and suck the smoke right out of their lungs.

However, the judge should have looked at how this affects the mom's relationship with her children. The children would Probably have had to TELL the DAD in order for the court to arrest the mother. And the DAD definitely would have had to press charges. The DAD probably (and I'm a single mom, and this has happened to me and my friends numerous times) told the children to 'fink' on their mother if she smoked. Thus, the DAD is in the pilot's seat once controlling the mother and manipulating the children under the guise of "helping the children's health". Believe me, I've seen parents of both genders pull this sort of stuff.

I don't smoke, but if my children turned on me like that, they'd be living with their father.

And I'd be on the beach in Tahiti with Dex the Habana boy.


114 posted on 08/13/2004 10:25:50 AM PDT by Hi Heels
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To: HawkeyeLonewolf

Before they passed the no-smoking on airline laws, Northwest voluntarily instituted a no smoking policy. I enjoyed patronizing them. The market will provide non-smoking eateries without resort to Government force. I just don't see that it's a diner's right to make a business owner provide him something he wants.


115 posted on 08/13/2004 10:26:05 AM PDT by SupplySider
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To: SupplySider

#1. Before the safety laws were passed, there were VERY FEW, if any non-smoking eateries.

#2. The diner is not forcing this issue. It's a matter of public health.

#3. This is SO CLEARLY a wise restriction preventing one persons rights from infringing upon anothers. Most all of our laws follow this same model.


116 posted on 08/13/2004 10:28:43 AM PDT by HawkeyeLonewolf (Christian First, American Second)
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To: HawkeyeLonewolf
You eating Mediterranean food doesn't endanger the health of those around you.

If you think you will be endangered by eating next to a smoker, no law requires you to eat at a place that serves smokers.

117 posted on 08/13/2004 10:28:51 AM PDT by SupplySider
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To: Just another Joe

Let us not forget the other Scriptures;

Titus 3: 1 "Remind the people to be subject to rules and authorities, to be obedient, to be ready to do whatever is good, to slander noone, to be peaceable and considerate, and to show true humility toward all men.

Hebrews 13:17 Obey your leaders and submit to their authority. They keep watch over you as men who must give an account. Obey them so that their work will be joy, not a burden, for that would be no advantage to you.

ROMANS 13: 1-6 "EVERYONE must submit himself to the governing authorities for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God. Consequently, he who rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves. For rulers hold no terror for those who do right, but for those who do wrong"........AND YOU CAN LOOK UP REST AND READ IT FOR YOURSELF.

I believe the Word Of God is clear here.


118 posted on 08/13/2004 10:30:50 AM PDT by Kackikat (,Kerry=the counterfeit, GWBush is the real deal!)
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To: Don Simmons

Your brain washed and your brash comments don't even warrant a fight. You are totally swayed to their side. Cya!


119 posted on 08/13/2004 10:31:15 AM PDT by SheLion (The terrorist are here.......living among us. It's too late to close the borders.)
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To: Hi Heels
"And I'd be on the beach in Tahiti with Dex the Habana boy."

Yeah Baby! Does Dex have a sister?

120 posted on 08/13/2004 10:31:54 AM PDT by Hatteras
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