Keyes has not only never held an elected position,he has never won an election.
He has managed to turn off many of his supporters.
No matter what anyone says,his own words about Hillary are going to haunt him throughout this election cycle.
For all of the posts by rose colored glass wearers here,the simple fact is that there are not enough Conservatives,in Ill.,to give him more than 30% of the vote,at most.The Dems WILL then use his loss,to attack ALL of Conservatism,saying that Keyes is THE icon of Conservatives and his loss proves that Conservatism isn't viable and especially NOT for blacks.And NO,he will NOT make any inroads with blacks in Ill.!
Keyes has several problems,which he can not overcome.Look at the demographics and voting patterns,in Ill.,for the last ten years.
Keyes has two very bad oratory problems.First,he's a 19th century style orator/debater.Second,he talks DOWN to his audiences.Third,he often uses words that the "common man" neither knows nor understand.Fourth,he treats those who disagree with him,as though they are mental midgets/children.Fifth,he even treats those who agree with him as idiots at times.
HE IS AN OUTSIDER!
Yes,for " true believers",he delivers red meat;however,he also can and has turned even many of these people off.
There are people,staunch Conservatives,who have not forgotten how Keyes blasted President Bush AFTER he became president. Will some of them vote for Alan?Probably,but not all of them.Yes,I know,cutting off their collective noses to spit their face,but some people in California did that too,voting for Tancredo,instead of Arnold and are still trying to undercut Arnold.
Keyes decided to start at the top,by running for president,with absolutely NO kind of creditentials.He then used the RACE CARD and "victim" garbage,TWICE,and became more Sarptonesque/Jacksonesque than "principled".The hunger strike strike didn't help him any either.
His cable show was a dismal failure and due almost entirely to himself.
Now this carpetbagger run for Senator,in a state he has NO connection with.And don't hand me the canard that "he was asked to",because IF he is really so principled,he could have and should have declined the "honor"!
This run will NOT "sow seeds",will NOT "win over" people,and just may hurt President Bush's re-election figures in Ill.! THIS IS THE FINAL NAIL IN KEYES' POLITICAL COFFIN.
"This run will NOT "sow seeds",will NOT "win over" people,and just may hurt President Bush's re-election figures in Ill.! THIS IS THE FINAL NAIL IN KEYES' POLITICAL COFFIN."
There you go again, nopardons, always depressed and negative. Like Bush's re-election figures in Illinois would have been better if Keyes chose not to run? You're joking, right? If not, you aren't in touch with reality and might want to consider visiting a shrink soon. Hahahahahaha, Keyes would hurt Bush's re-election figures in IL? Hahahahahahaha, that's REALLY funny. Maybe Barthwell would have brought up Bush's re-election figures in IL, don't you think? Hahahahaha.
And do you think Keyes will just disappear from the American stage if he loses this election? He'll probably increase his speaking engagements for more $ than before, he will gain a larger platform for his conservative message, and believe me, he'll do just fine. Buchanan is all over the TV on the talking heads shows, after his losses. Not too bad a gig. And if Keyes does lose, he'll be seen as having given it the old college try, as the Pubs had no one else to take on this chore so late in the game. But why am I wasting my breath on you. You are no help to this great state of Illinois, nor to Bush and his re-election chances. You're just all bah humbug.
I've looked at what you've been saying about this. And your attacks have been malicious, malignant and almost universally silly.
Keyes has not only never held an elected position,he has never won an election.
No, and quitters never win. Of course, he has been a diplomat, a U.N. ambassador for Ronald Reagan, a university president, one of the founders of Citizen's Against Government Waste and several other very active and effective organizations, a highly recognized expert on foreign policy and defense matters, a personal friend to Benjamin Netanyahu and Ariel Sharon, a fighter against liberalism on almost every front for the last decades, and has raised more money for crisis pregnancy centers than any other individual alive, to name a few. I think his credentials are a bit better than yours. The only talent you seem to have is critic, and you do a poor job at that.
He has managed to turn off many of his supporters.
The numbers of his supporters has steadily grown larger and larger for the last decade. Most all conservatives in the country love him. The people he 'turns off' are generally liberals and RINOs. But I repeat myself.
No matter what anyone says,his own words about Hillary are going to haunt him throughout this election cycle.
No they aren't. Those who harp on that stuff at this level lose. I hope the Dems follow your lead.
For all of the posts by rose colored glass wearers here,the simple fact is that there are not enough Conservatives,in Ill.,to give him more than 30% of the vote,at most.The Dems WILL then use his loss,to attack ALL of Conservatism,saying that Keyes is THE icon of Conservatives and his loss proves that Conservatism isn't viable and especially NOT for blacks.And NO,he will NOT make any inroads with blacks in Ill.!
Quit pretending you care about the welfare of conservatives. It is disingenuous in the extreme.
Keyes has several problems,which he can not overcome.Look at the demographics and voting patterns,in Ill.,for the last ten years.
As if you have a clue about those things. You see everything through a liberal prism. You preach defeat. Defeatism is a disease, and you are a carrier.
Keyes has two very bad oratory problems.First,he's a 19th century style orator/debater.Second,he talks DOWN to his audiences.Third,he often uses words that the "common man" neither knows nor understand.Fourth,he treats those who disagree with him,as though they are mental midgets/children.Fifth,he even treats those who agree with him as idiots at times.
Maybe he treats you like a mental midget because you are one? Just a thought. Sorry you can't follow him.
HE IS AN OUTSIDER!
Petty parochialism in caps, even. Impressive.
Yes,for " true believers",he delivers red meat;however,he also can and has turned even many of these people off.
Rhetoric fit to come out of the mouth of any liberal RAT.
There are people,staunch Conservatives,who have not forgotten how Keyes blasted President Bush AFTER he became president.
Is that why the White House has personally thanked the good Doctor for his staunch defense of the President's foreign policy? You simply don't know what you're talking about, or you are lying.
Will some of them vote for Alan?Probably,but not all of them.Yes,I know,cutting off their collective noses to spit their face,but some people in California did that too,voting for Tancredo,instead of Arnold and are still trying to undercut Arnold.
How can you expect anyone to take you seriously, when you don't even know recent political history, and when you show such an utter lack of ability to make distinctions?
Keyes decided to start at the top,by running for president,with absolutely NO kind of creditentials.He then used the RACE CARD and "victim" garbage,TWICE,and became more Sarptonesque/Jacksonesque than "principled".The hunger strike strike didn't help him any either.
More lies and distortions. See above for his credentials. They certainly exceed yours, and Barak Obama's.
His cable show was a dismal failure and due almost entirely to himself.
His ratings were growing throughout, but MSNBC broke the contract. How does it feel to find common cause with the CAIR Islamists who worked tirelessly to drive him off the air?
Now this carpetbagger run for Senator,in a state he has NO connection with.And don't hand me the canard that "he was asked to",because IF he is really so principled,he could have and should have declined the "honor"!
He meets the constitutional requirements. That's all I care about, and that should be all any Republican should care about. Anything else just shows that you don't mind carrying Obama's water for him. You're arguing against a fait accompli, and that is always stupid.
This run will NOT "sow seeds",will NOT "win over" people...
We know it won't win you over. You are immune to constitutionalism and common sense. However, there are tens of thousands of Illinoisans who are susceptible.
...and just may hurt President Bush's re-election figures in Ill.!
Bullhockey. The state had been written off. We now have a chance, albeit long, to bring it back into play. Once again, you show your political ignorance.
THIS IS THE FINAL NAIL IN KEYES' POLITICAL COFFIN.
In your dreams.
Forgive me for saying so but the rest of your post contradicts this claim.
If the long list of roadblocks to Keyes' being successful is so obvious to you before hand, will they not be equally obvious to all after the loss? Where then will come the credibility of using that loss to broad brush all conservatism?
Further, even the political novice knows that Illinois is not representative of the rest of the nation - does the failure of conservatism in Illinois means conservatism is dean in Indiana? Of course not, and even the passing observer knows it.
Spend all your time proclaiming Keyes will lose if you want, I'm inclined to agree with you when forced to an opinion. Spend lots of bandwidth restating the already exhaustively stated list of Keyes failings (I even posted a handy reference list for you guys if you are having trouble remembering them all)...
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1186943/posts
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...I've acknowledged those are at the least potential problems.
But the charge that the Dems will use this to discredit all conservatism is the weakest sort of red herring, or else obsessive paranoia no better than those Keyes supporters who are convinced that Bush & Co. will purposely knock him off.
and became more Sarptonesque/Jacksonesque than "principled".
I'm reading some of the replies. You've hit another home run. I wish I had writen what you wrote and I'm more informed for reading it.