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To: nopardons
No,not at all.But look at the facts of what I said...what I have been saying about this.

I've looked at what you've been saying about this. And your attacks have been malicious, malignant and almost universally silly.

Keyes has not only never held an elected position,he has never won an election.

No, and quitters never win. Of course, he has been a diplomat, a U.N. ambassador for Ronald Reagan, a university president, one of the founders of Citizen's Against Government Waste and several other very active and effective organizations, a highly recognized expert on foreign policy and defense matters, a personal friend to Benjamin Netanyahu and Ariel Sharon, a fighter against liberalism on almost every front for the last decades, and has raised more money for crisis pregnancy centers than any other individual alive, to name a few. I think his credentials are a bit better than yours. The only talent you seem to have is critic, and you do a poor job at that.

He has managed to turn off many of his supporters.

The numbers of his supporters has steadily grown larger and larger for the last decade. Most all conservatives in the country love him. The people he 'turns off' are generally liberals and RINOs. But I repeat myself.

No matter what anyone says,his own words about Hillary are going to haunt him throughout this election cycle.

No they aren't. Those who harp on that stuff at this level lose. I hope the Dems follow your lead.

For all of the posts by rose colored glass wearers here,the simple fact is that there are not enough Conservatives,in Ill.,to give him more than 30% of the vote,at most.The Dems WILL then use his loss,to attack ALL of Conservatism,saying that Keyes is THE icon of Conservatives and his loss proves that Conservatism isn't viable and especially NOT for blacks.And NO,he will NOT make any inroads with blacks in Ill.!

Quit pretending you care about the welfare of conservatives. It is disingenuous in the extreme.

Keyes has several problems,which he can not overcome.Look at the demographics and voting patterns,in Ill.,for the last ten years.

As if you have a clue about those things. You see everything through a liberal prism. You preach defeat. Defeatism is a disease, and you are a carrier.

Keyes has two very bad oratory problems.First,he's a 19th century style orator/debater.Second,he talks DOWN to his audiences.Third,he often uses words that the "common man" neither knows nor understand.Fourth,he treats those who disagree with him,as though they are mental midgets/children.Fifth,he even treats those who agree with him as idiots at times.

Maybe he treats you like a mental midget because you are one? Just a thought. Sorry you can't follow him.

HE IS AN OUTSIDER!

Petty parochialism in caps, even. Impressive.

Yes,for " true believers",he delivers red meat;however,he also can and has turned even many of these people off.

Rhetoric fit to come out of the mouth of any liberal RAT.

There are people,staunch Conservatives,who have not forgotten how Keyes blasted President Bush AFTER he became president.

Is that why the White House has personally thanked the good Doctor for his staunch defense of the President's foreign policy? You simply don't know what you're talking about, or you are lying.

Will some of them vote for Alan?Probably,but not all of them.Yes,I know,cutting off their collective noses to spit their face,but some people in California did that too,voting for Tancredo,instead of Arnold and are still trying to undercut Arnold.

How can you expect anyone to take you seriously, when you don't even know recent political history, and when you show such an utter lack of ability to make distinctions?

Keyes decided to start at the top,by running for president,with absolutely NO kind of creditentials.He then used the RACE CARD and "victim" garbage,TWICE,and became more Sarptonesque/Jacksonesque than "principled".The hunger strike strike didn't help him any either.

More lies and distortions. See above for his credentials. They certainly exceed yours, and Barak Obama's.

His cable show was a dismal failure and due almost entirely to himself.

His ratings were growing throughout, but MSNBC broke the contract. How does it feel to find common cause with the CAIR Islamists who worked tirelessly to drive him off the air?

Now this carpetbagger run for Senator,in a state he has NO connection with.And don't hand me the canard that "he was asked to",because IF he is really so principled,he could have and should have declined the "honor"!

He meets the constitutional requirements. That's all I care about, and that should be all any Republican should care about. Anything else just shows that you don't mind carrying Obama's water for him. You're arguing against a fait accompli, and that is always stupid.

This run will NOT "sow seeds",will NOT "win over" people...

We know it won't win you over. You are immune to constitutionalism and common sense. However, there are tens of thousands of Illinoisans who are susceptible.

...and just may hurt President Bush's re-election figures in Ill.!

Bullhockey. The state had been written off. We now have a chance, albeit long, to bring it back into play. Once again, you show your political ignorance.

THIS IS THE FINAL NAIL IN KEYES' POLITICAL COFFIN.

In your dreams.

100 posted on 08/07/2004 10:44:49 PM PDT by EternalVigilance ('Impossible' is the favorite word of cowards...nothing is impossible with God...)
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To: EternalVigilance
Since I have not name called,nor insulted you,but you have done so to me,with every turn,it's long past time that some salient facts come to light.

I have no difficulty understanding Alan's vocabulary,train of thought,nor his writing or speeches.I could have easily understood him when I was 10,if he has made them back then.But you are impressed by his hyperbolic bloviation because you haven't and don't usually come in contact with people who habitually use more than a scant few words of the English language.

I have been not been "malicious", "malignant",nor "silly";though you have been and are misusing every single one of those words.No wonder you think that Alan is "brilliant".

Oh,there you go again.....calling anyone who can see Keyes for exactly WHO and WHAT he is,a "LIBERAL". That is a LIBERAL/MARKIST tactic and should be shunned by the " principled" and Conservatives of every stripe.Yet,you engage in it.How telling. :-)

There isn't a single post or position,which you have listed,that Keyes has held,that makes him a great candidate for the Senate seat from Ill.! His ONLY qualifications for that seat,are that he has an R next to his name and that he isn't Obama.

I have posted facts,so that the lurkers and some of the posters to these threads,get more than the fawning Keyes sycophants'rose colored,overtly exuberant,benighted views.His chances of winning are none to zilch.This exercise in futility is exactly what I said it is.And whilst not running means that one will never win,his running in this race just means that he'll lose yet again.To add insult to injury,it also hands those dead set against Conservatism,a goldmine of an opportunity to use Keyes to bludgeon the Conservative movement.Which unlike you,is near and dear to my heart.You,OTOH,are little other than an idol worshiper of the worst sort,inflamed by the " true believer's" disease. You never see the reality;only your own distorted visions.

It is also quite telling,that many of the people so thrilled with Alan,are the very people who have spent YEARS here trashing and bashing President Bush every possible moment they can.

You don't know whereof you speak.I was and have been a Conservative far longer than you and still am one.I know many Conservatives who used to like Keyes,but no more. And IF Alan's supporters have grown ex potentially over the past 10 years,his T.V, show,even though it was on MSNBC,should have attracted many more viewers and lasted far longer than a scant few months.But you blame the network,who has every right to move a show that isn't doing well, to whatever time-slot they want to,than Alan himself.HE COULD HAVES KEPT HIS SHOW,BUT INSTEAD,LEFT IN A HUFF. Yep,that's what " diplomats" do.LOL

You have been easily and ably refuted by many here.You lie,insult,harangue,obfuscate,and are pompous,arrogant,and a fine fit with Alan;which is not a compliment.

Isn't it true,that whilst working for Alan Keyes,you lived in a house that he/his campaign paid for and write off as a business expense? It's something I once heard and would like a clarification of.

If Alan Keyes is so highly thought of,has had so many positions,why is it that he paid himself a princely sum,out of campaign donations?

If,after all these years,his taxes are still out of order,and Clintonlike,he brushes it all off with some excuse that it's just a paperwork error and the monies are owed to campaign workers,when he hasn't been IN a campaign for years,just how popular is he for remunerative activities?

If anyone at all has been disingenuous,in the extreme or otherwise,it has been you.

When Alan loses this races,as he always does,you and your ilk will,yet again,places the blame on everyone and anyone EXCEPT where the blame lies.You abjure facts,as though they were read hot coals,instead spewing forth the most inelegant,irresponsible,and fulsome inanities,base libel,and supercilious invectives outside of a grammar school playground at Ethical Culture,or some such school for the children of elitist "PROGRESSIVES".

142 posted on 08/07/2004 11:41:11 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: EternalVigilance

There are a couple posters here who FREAK out
whenever True Patriots are mentioned.

Makes me wonder what side
these screamers are on.


473 posted on 08/08/2004 12:57:42 PM PDT by Joy Angela (No More DINOs - Democrats In Name Only AKA The Enemy Within)
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To: EternalVigilance
The only talent you seem to have is critic,

Nopardons isn't trying to be a Senator. If I was to imitate your debating techniques I would say "I personally think you're an idiot," but that is not pertinent to this discussion. It is a personal attack that diverts attention away from the discussion of the Senatorial candidate Keyes and his many flaws. When you attack the messenger and not the message then you must continually fear the next messenger. Hopefully you will grow up some day.

600 posted on 08/08/2004 11:29:58 PM PDT by Once-Ler (Proud Republican. and Bushbot.)
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To: EternalVigilance
Keyes has not only never held an elected position,he has never won an election.

That was the message...try again.

601 posted on 08/08/2004 11:31:03 PM PDT by Once-Ler (Proud Republican. and Bushbot.)
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