Posted on 08/07/2004 7:24:44 PM PDT by Graybeard58
SPRINGFIELD, Ill. - At one point during last week's Republican leadership gathering in Chicago, the debate over conservative activist Alan Keyes grew so contentious that journalists standing outside the closed doors heard - and reported - the shouting.
The Illinois Republican State Central Committee later barred reporters from the entire floor where they were meeting to choose their party's new candidate for the U.S. Senate.
But with Keyes' candidacy likely to become official Sunday, it will be much tougher for Republican leaders to hide the internal strife in their divided party.
On Wednesday night the committee formally asked Keyes - a former United Nations ambassador and two-time presidential candidate who has never lived in Illinois - to run against Democratic candidate Barack Obama for Illinois' open Senate seat. All indications are that Keyes will accept, kicking off his campaign Sunday at a Chicago-area rally.
Keyes will replace Jack Ryan, whom Republicans nominated in the primaries for the Senate. Ryan bowed out of the race last month amid embarrassing sexual allegations.
While Keyes' candidacy solves one problem for the GOP, it generates another: His far-right views on most major issues will, once again, highlight the deep fissure in the Illinois GOP between moderates - like former Govs. Jim Edgar and James Thompson - and the more conservative wing, which has been trying for years to move the party rightward.
"The state party is divided in the same way the national party is divided. The difference in Illinois is that the more moderate branch tends to run the board," noted political scientist John S. Jackson of Southern Illinois University Carbondale. "The hard-right decided they wanted this ... but it will magnify the fault lines" with moderates.
Shouts and silence
The first rumblings of that fault line were heard through the cl
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It is Allan Keyes' position to save 3000 babies a day.
It is obamasams' position to kill 3000 babies a day.
Some folks here are against the guy who saves the babies and silent about the obamasama who wants to kill them.
Is it an accident that Clinton as governor made Mike Royko's Boss: Richard J. Daley of Chicago required reading for his staff?
So Soros is funding DragoBama the Soviet fighting machine against Rocky Keyes in the strange cesspool that elected Carol Mostly Fraud.
Lincoln, legend of Republican roots, had a long, bitter history of defeats.
When he entered Washington to assume the presidency he was as despised as he was adored.
Keyes has a rare rhetorical talent, and it is feared by those who bared their teeth at Clarence Thomas.
What refreshing music to hear the audacious eloquence of Walter E. Williams and Thomas Sowell.
How many times has Ward Connerly been hung in effigy?
As for money issues? The unsuccessful GOP candidate for New Mexico Attorney General in 1998 received 17K donations yet was one day late in reporting it.
Democrats saw to it that he was fined--17K.
Now David Iglesias is U.S. Attorney for the District--the wheel did not stop.
Let Obama explain how blacks should continue to abort themselves into extinction, continue destroying their families, continue settling for so much less than the American dream--simply to fund the Jesse Penthouse Jacksons.
It'd help to recruit people like Star Parker and Reggie White to do some stumping on his behalf as well.
Erudite prose? You don't even know what a space bar is.
You post about blacks and and black churches in Chicago; are you black,do you know any black Chicagoans?
You post about Hispanics in Ill.;are you Hispanic and/or do you any in Ill.?
Instead of facts and logic,you post emotionally about a subject you neither know anything about or understand.
You call people cheerleaders for Obama and worse,because they aren't caught up in hallucinatory gibberish.
I have posted,many times over,that although no,I do NOT likes Kesyes and am appalled at things hes has done and said in the past,not to mention is hypocrisy,that I wish hes could win,but he won't.And YES,this will be the final nail in his political coffin.The man is incapable of winning any elected office.
You are correct. On another Keyes thread, a Keyes supporter said that Hastert has backstabbed Keyes, which isn't true and which I proved it wasn't true by using Hastert's own words.
She formed her opinion from an AP headline and not Hastert's words.
When pointed out to her, she said got angry and the replies went down from there.
I have shrugged it off and look at the real political adversary, Obama, and at least Alan Keyes will bring out issues that would have not been brought out otherwise.
Thank you Will for your level headness and patience with both sides and using reason instead of heated rhetoric to make your points.
You bet!
And,dear,I am far mores in touch with the REAL world,than you are;obviously.Not to mention the fact that I don't have to be childishly petty,insulting,and derisive to get my points across;unlike you
"You have no idea just how funny you are,but that's good. We've been laughing AT you for days now.I must say,though,that since dropping the claim of being the thread nanny,your tone hasn't changed at all."
Well, no one can say that you have an original thought. Can't you come up with a better response than to parrot back my laughing at you comment? By the way, whose the "we"? Are you a clone? Are there more of you? (heaven help us...)
At one time,there was still a rather largish segment of elite black GOPers there and I'm talking about during and after JFK (the real one)was running,elected,and killed.That hasn't been the case in decades.
There is what I call "THE SECOND CITY COMPLEX",which has a deep and abiding hold on ALL Chicagoans,no matter their races,sex,religion,ethnicity.THEY HATE "OUTSIDERS"! They especially HATE (and yes,I do mean HATE!)people who move there from the East Coast.No,it isn't everyone,but it certainly afflicts most.Keyes,invited in or not,running for the Senate,against a man who has lived and worked in Ill. for 12 years,is a HUGE problem.Being a black Conservative,is as bad,if not worse.
I have simply attempted to lay out some facts,in the face of so much undue delusional prose.This is hardly "defeatism","cheer-leading for Obama",nor any of the other things thrown out on this thread by fervent Keyes supporters.
Flame throwers,who talk down to their audience,do NOT convert anyone.
Whoops, getting late. Meant 11th commandmant, not 10th.
There are three choices:
A) Support Alan Keyes.
B) Support Barak Obama.
C) Surrender and support no one.
C amounts to B.
Whining and defeatist talk also amounts to B.
...she said as her finger slipped off the red hot trigger of her flamethrower...
On a VERY well written and interesting thread posted by Congressman BillyBob,he points out that by touting his Nam service,Kerry opened himself up to the SWIFTEES' attack on his record,but that he never saw it coming and is not now prepared well to defeat it.
Neither could he think on his feet well,nor debate well at Yale,when he and Congressman BillyBob debated,due to his inabilities to see what the other side would level at him.
I am posting what I see the Dems doing to Keyes.If neither he nor his supporters here can do that,and they obviously can't,therein lies yet another gigantic problem.
Just keep tying away and soon everyone will understand just how devoid you are of any intellect,scope or breath of ideas,and that you are incapable of an adult discussion.
I understand. I frankly couldn't believe how fast that unraveled and cost the election. One stupid thing that could have been avoided at both the candidate and the voter level...
What ith are you drinking tonight ma'am?
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