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To: syriacus
In their summary at the end of this propaganda piece, the folks at Annenberg throw up their arms in feigned helplessness:
At this point, 35 years later and half a world away, we see no way to resolve which of these versions of reality is closer to the truth.

But...but...isn't it their mission to dig out the truth????

"We are a nonpartisan, nonprofit, "consumer advocate" for voters that aims to reduce the level of deception and confusion in U.S. politics."

They are well suited to be mouthpieces for Kerry....They give up when the going gets rough.

13 posted on 08/07/2004 7:54:00 AM PDT by syriacus (Daschle on National Missile Defense debate -- "THIS ISN'T ROCKET SCIENCE." June 8, 2001)
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To: syriacus
" . . . we see no way to resolve which of these versions of reality is closer to the truth."

Translation: 'We don't dare have this resolved, so let's just all pack it in and move on.'

54 posted on 08/07/2004 9:03:31 AM PDT by Eastbound
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To: syriacus

"At this point, 35 years later and half a world away, we see no way to resolve which of these versions of reality is closer to the truth." ~ AnnenbergPoliticalFactCheck


Really? Let's go over this again:

Rush: "....in Kranish's own book on page 102 he quotes Kerry as acknowledging that he killed a single, wounded, fleeing Vietcong soldier whom he was afraid would turn around -- meaning he shot him in the back!"

32 posted on 08/07/2004 9:42:18 AM EDT by Matchett-PI
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1186852/posts?page=32#32

"For my belief that he was wounded and fleeing (and was shot in the back, I rely upon many sources, including Michael Kranish's (the Boston Globe reporter) own quotation of John Kerry.... "

This is the delicious part--

The Kerry/Kranish account of the incident contributed to Elliot's understanding that the man was shot in the back.

12 posted on 08/07/2004 8:20:30 AM EDT by syriacus
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1186852/posts?page=12#12

I think the "terrible mistake" was his decision to sign the affadavit even though it contained a line he could not personally vouch for (that Kerry shot a man in the back).

No ..... look at these two sentences from Elliot's two affidavits:

1. "For example, in connection with his Silver Star, I was never informed that he had simply shot a wounded, fleeing Viet Cong in the back."

2. "had I known the facts, I would not have recommended Kerry for the Silver Star for simply pursuing and dispatching a single, wounded, fleeing Viet Cong"

In the first he says that he hadn't been informed of the paltriness of Kerry's actions in the matter being referred to him for recommendation for the Silver Star. In the second he said that if he had known what had actually happened, he wouldn't have done it.

It's pretty clear that the mistake was signing the recommendation for Kerry's Silver Star based on limited information, not signing the first affidavit about Kerry based on limited information about that particular incident.

What Kranish did was dishonesty of the first magnitude. Not surprising, though, coming from the Boston Globe.

19 posted on 08/07/2004 8:40:53 AM EDT by aruanan
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Michael Kranish "dowdified" George Elliott quote for his story. JustoneMinute ^ | 08/07/04 | TOM MAGUIRE
Posted on 08/07/2004 5:55:20 AM EDT by Pikamax
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Kranish Is Cooked

Michael Kranish rocked us on Friday with a story, headlined "Veteran retracts criticism of Kerry", which told us that:

"a key figure in the anti-Kerry campaign, Kerry's former commanding officer, backed off one of the key contentions. Lieutenant Commander George Elliott said in an interview that he had made a ''terrible mistake" in signing an affidavit that suggests Kerry did not deserve the Silver Star -- one of the main allegations in the book.

Elliott is quoted as saying that Kerry ''lied about what occurred in Vietnam . . . for example, in connection with his Silver Star, I was never informed that he had simply shot a wounded, fleeing Viet Cong in the back."

Get Maureen Dowd on the line - that may have been the most misleading ellipsis ever published, but since the affidavit was not public, who knew?

Subsequently, Capt. Elliot retracted his retraction, prompting some head-scratching.

Now, both the original affidavit and the re-affirmation (the retraction of the retraction) are available here. I will read it again, and you should, too, but my first reaction is that Kranish wrote a wildly deceptive and misleading story.

Let's restore the missing ellipsis, emboldening the excerpted bit:

3. When Kerry came back to the United States he lied about what ocurred in Vietnam, comparing his commanders to Lt. Calley of My Lai, comparing the American armed forces to the army of Ghengis Khan, and making similar misstatements. Kerry was also not forthright in Vietnam. For example, in connection with his Silver Star, I was never informed that he had simply shot a wounded, fleeing Viet Cong in the back.

Hello, Mr. Reporter! When Capt. Elliot "backed of one of the key contentions", was it the My Lai complaint, or the Ghengis Khan comparison? Or was it one example preceded by "for example"?

Unbelievable. In his re-affirming affidavit, Capt. Elliot cites the same material I did to reach this conclusion - he was not informed of the facts, and "had I known the facts, I would not have recommended Kerry for the Silver Star for simply pursuing and dispatching a single, wounded, fleeing VietCong".

This, from the Globe, now looks wildly ironic:

In the ad, Elliott says, ''John Kerry has not been honest about what happened in Vietnam."

Asked to supply evidence to support that statement, the anti-Kerry group provided a copy of Elliott's affidavit. Elliott said the same affidavit had been used in the production of the book.

It is unclear whether the work contains further justification for the assertion, beyond Elliott's statement.

Oh, it is going to be pretty clear, I bet. They still need to back it up, but there will be more.

Earlier, I had guessed that the Swiftees would disappear under the headline of "Cranks can't get story straight". But if Kranish has been this irresponsible, the Swiftees will sail on as the heroes of a "Liberal media attempts to squash Veteran truth-tellers" drama.

Don't even ask me about Joe Wilson.

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"What Elliot is saying is that he does not know if it is true that John Kerry shot a wounded Viet Cong in the back..."

Wrong.

Excerpt from the excerpt below:

"....in Kranish's own book on page 102 he quotes Kerry as acknowledging that he killed a single, wounded, fleeing Vietcong soldier whom he was afraid would turn around -- meaning he shot him in the back!"

32 posted on 08/07/2004 9:42:18 AM EDT by Matchett-PI
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"Boston Globe 'Reporter' Paid By Kerry Demonstrates Huge See, I Told You So on Campaign Finance Reform Folly August 6, 2004" http://www.rushlimbaugh.com

Excerpt:

"The following statement from Swift Boat Veterans for Truth concerns an article appearing in [today's] Boston Globe... [Viet Vet] Captain George Elliott describes an article appearing in today’s edition of the Boston Globe by Mike Kranish as 'extremely inaccurate' and 'highly misstating' his actual views.

He reaffirms his statement in the current advertisement paid for by the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth. Captain Elliott reaffirms his affidavit in support of that advertisement, and he reaffirms his request that the ad be played."

Essentially Captain Elliott is renouncing what is said of him in this Boston Globe Mike Kranish story.

The statement then goes on to say, "Additional documentation will follow. The article by Mr. Kranish is particularly surprising given page 102 of Mr. Kranish’s own book quoting John Kerry as acknowledging that he killed a single, wounded, fleeing Viet Cong soldier whom he was afraid would turn around."

Let's just stop there. Kranish, the author of the Boston Globe story, wrote a book on John Kerry, is his biographer, and on page 102 of that book that Kranish wrote, he quotes Kerry acknowledging that he 'killed a single, wounded, fleeing Vietcong soldier whom he was afraid would turn around.'

Yet, Kranish writes today in the Boston Globe: "Yesterday a key figure in the anti-Kerry campaign, Kerry's former commanding officer, backed off one of the key contentions. Lieutenant Commander George Elliott said in an interview that he had made a 'terrible mistake' in signing an affidavit that suggests Kerry did not deserve the Silver Star..."

"Elliott is quoted as saying that Kerry 'lied about what occurred in Vietnam . . . for example, in connection with his Silver Star, I was never informed that he had simply shot a wounded, fleeing Viet Cong in the back.' The statement refers to an episode in which Kerry killed a Viet Cong soldier who had been carrying a rocket launcher, part of a chain of events that formed the basis of his Silver Star.

Over time, some Kerry critics have questioned whether the soldier posed a danger to Kerry's crew....

Yesterday, reached at his home, Elliott said he regretted signing the affidavit and said he still thinks Kerry deserved the Silver Star. I still don't think he shot the guy in the back,' Elliott said. 'It was a terrible mistake probably for me to sign the affidavit with those words.'"

Yet in Kranish's own book on page 102 he quotes Kerry as acknowledging that he killed a single, wounded, fleeing Vietcong soldier whom he was afraid would turn around -- meaning he shot him in the back!

Who is Mike Kranish? Mike Kranish is a reporter covering the Kerry campaign for the Boston Globe. Mike Kranish is also a biographer of John Kerry, and as I just learned during our break at the top of the hour, Mike Kranish has also written the yet-to-be-released official campaign book for Kerry-Edwards. It is entitled "Kerry-Edwards."

You can get it now on Amazon. It's not available. The item has not yet been released but you can order it and they'll ship it to you when it arrives. List price, $12.95, your Amazon price, $10.36.

What does it [AMAZON] say about the author?:

"Michael Kranish has worked for the Boston Globe for more than 20 years, including the last 16 in the newspaper's Washington bureau. He is coauthor of, 'John Kerry the Complete Biography' published this year by Public Affairs." ..... [snip]

32 posted on 08/07/2004 9:42:18 AM EDT by Matchett-PI http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1186852/posts?page=32#32


69 posted on 08/07/2004 9:46:59 AM PDT by Matchett-PI (All DemocRATS are either relativists, libertines or anarchists.)
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