Posted on 08/07/2004 5:23:27 AM PDT by ninenot
Obey's spin is coached by a high-powered attorney in Madison. He's nervous because his District is "social conservative/fiscal liberal," which means that he could be upset by a reasonably crafty Republican.
He's also nervous because he's effectively been skewered by Bp. Burke. It's possible that Obey's beginning to think about the Four Last Things--he's not a kid anymore.
""In my view, Bishop Burke attempted to use his interpretations of theology to coerce me into taking specific positions on matters that I believe are matters of constitutional law," Obey writes near the end of the piece, which the magazine provided to reporters."
The Bishop is not interpreting dogma. He is stating it.
""The difference between us is that I am not trying to force him to agree with my judgments, but he is attempting to force me to agree with his. That in conscience I cannot do.""
You are trying to force your judgment upon the Bishop while rejecting his teaching. You cannot have it both ways.
If you cannot hold to the teachings, leave.
Just as long as the guy is not, you know, TOO little.
Why do politicians always think they know better than the experts?
I had no idea that Bishop Burke had invented the Catholic faith specifically to impose his judgments on others. Silly me, I assumed that the Bishop was simply defending the faith... I guess to a liberal, that means "forcing" Catholics to agree with it, and we can't have that! Obey can disagree all he wants... but then he can't claim faithful membership in the Catholic church. Why is this so hard to understand? Lately I've been doing some reading on racial issues in politics. It occurs to me how strange it is that to the liberals, a black conservative can lose his/her ethnic ancestry by not voting with the Congressional Black Caucus, but Catholicism (unlike race, apparently) is an immutable characteristic obtained by birth, Catholic school, or being an altar boy... and nothing you can do can ever change it.
As soon as America picks up on this little, but most important phrase, we might be able to re-claim our national identity.
Much of what is spoken in the seanate and the house has the "I believe" prefix, making what they do a religious dictum and not a matter of representation for which they were sent.
The law is intended for the law breaker, not the man whom seeks to do what is right and live honorably.
By removing the Ten Commandments from the minds of people, the concept of moral right is an issue, cloudy at best, left in the hands of the elected which, as recent history proves, have a 'faith' in everything else but God and the Bible that teaches us about him.
It is said, and rightly so, that school is intended to teach children how to learn, not what to learn.
The Bible does not force anyone to do anything, all it does is put before a mind, in print form, the thoughts that are intended to allow one to think in a Godly way.
We have always, in the mind of God, had the opportunity and freedom to choose or refuse that which is intended for our own good.
Every day small members of this society are being torn apart in abortion mills.
So if I were elected to Congress it's okay to ignore and disobey any congressional rules I don't like.
Oh, it's against the rules to hit Rep. Obey over the head with a chair? Hey, rules don't apply to me.
Crash!
Obey, you idiot. The only thing the bishop is forcing on you is denial of the scarament of communion. The fact that you twist that into making you vote a certain way shows you to be mentally disconnected.
ping for you.
Don't throw your arm out while patting yourself on the back, Obey.
Matthew 7
13 "Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it.
14 But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it.
Don't you just love it when a politico pushes their religion into the open as a campaign tool only to find out they don't follow the faith? IMHO many use religion as a label only. It has nothing to do with their faith, salvation or devotion. You can not pick and choose a'la carte the items you like.
People are not perfect but when you intentionally, and repeatedly, disobey unambiguous scripture you are a faith fraud. You mock God and that can never be good.
The unanswered question is "what is wrong with the Republican party of central WI if they can't field someone to knock this flaming socialist out of office?"
thanks for posting this...will send it along....
BTW Every newspaper in the area is a Gannett owned.....
Obey is echoing Kerry's song and dance routine - indicating an attempt to actively put together an united front/defense.
However:
"An appeal to conscience concerning intrinsically evil matters is a specious one. Conscience is not an independent entity; it does not operate in a vacuum. Conscience must be formed to the objective norm of truth - Church teaching. Church teaching is clear on the issues...(Catechism of the Catholic Church #1783)" re: www.fathercorapi.com.
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