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McCain condemns anti-Kerry ads, calls on White House to follow suit
Boston Globe ^ | 5 August 2004 | Ron Fournier

Posted on 08/05/2004 7:57:11 AM PDT by demlosers

Edited on 08/05/2004 8:28:31 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

WASHINGTON (AP) Republican Sen. John McCain, a former prisoner of war in Vietnam, called an ad criticizing John Kerry's military service ''dishonest and dishonorable'' and urged the White House on Thursday to condemn it as well.

''It was the same kind of deal that was pulled on me,'' McCain said in an interview with The Associated Press, referring to his bitter Republican primary fight with President Bush.


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TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: ads; dishonest; dishonorable; getatigercage; mccain; militaryrecord; swiftboatveterans
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To: demlosers

He says it's dishonest -- what content of the ad does he actually dispute?


81 posted on 08/05/2004 8:15:06 AM PDT by Sloth (John Kerry: Frank Burns with Charles Winchester's pedigree.)
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To: demlosers

"cheap stunt?"
Someone needs to inform McCain that there's nothing "cheap" about the truth...
And the only "cheap stunt" was Kerry appearing before the Senate committee in 1971 and lying about the "mass atrocities" ...
McCain needs to get on the right side of this issue!
Those pictures and lies of Kerry were used by the Vietnamese communists and helped in their propaganda! Period!

There were no "mass atrocities" and Kerry lied and betrayed those who fought in Viet Nam! And that's the bottom line!

Semper Fi,
Kelly


82 posted on 08/05/2004 8:15:33 AM PDT by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1/5 1st Mar Div. Nam 69&70 Semper Fi http://www.vietnamveteransagainstjohnkerry.com)
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To: kinsman redeemer

"We give McCain back to the Dims and the Dims give us Joe Lieberman."

I wish Zel Miller wasn't retiring, I'd rather have him...


83 posted on 08/05/2004 8:15:35 AM PDT by Veritas et equitas ad Votum
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To: demlosers

McCain said that's all in the past to him, but he's speaking out against the anti-Kerry ad because he believes it's bad for the political system. ''It reopens all the old wounds of the Vietnam War, which I spent the last 35 years trying to heal,'' he said. ''I deplore this kind of politics. I think the ad is dishonest and dishonorable. As it is, none of these individuals served on the boat (Kerry) commanded. Many of his crew have testified to his courage under fire. I think John Kerry served honorably in Vietnam. I think George Bush served honorably in the Texas Air National Guard during the Vietnam War.''

This was expected. McCain is now going to be the Dems chief defender of Kerry. If McCain (and the Dems) did not want to reopen old wounds with Vietnam, Kerry was the wrong candidate. First, it was the Dems and Kerry that raised the issue again of Bush's National Guard record and touted Kerry's war record. Kerry mentions Vietnam at every stop in the campaign. Secondly, Kerry's antiwar activities and associations helped fuel the anti Vietnam veteran sentiment.

Kerry has made Vietnam the centerpiece of his campaign. He can't have it both ways and neither can McCain. The Swift Boat vets have every right to express their opinions, especially when Kerry trots out his Band of Brothers as political props.

McCain is mouthing the Dem talking points when he says that "none of these individuals served on the boat (Kerry) commanded." Technically true, but it ignores the reality that they were serving together within yards of one another. Kerry was not commanding a destroyer or aircraft carrier. He was operating a small boat with a crew of 6 including himself. The boats operated together with other boats, not independently. As I said on another thread, it is like the quarterback saying he did not serve with the middle linebacker. They may be on different units, but they are on the same team.

84 posted on 08/05/2004 8:15:53 AM PDT by kabar
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To: Badeye
I find it odd McCain apparently believes the only Vietnam Veterans that should be allowed to speak are himself and Kerry.

This is the CFR poster boy, remember. He believes only our betters should be allowed to speak.

85 posted on 08/05/2004 8:16:50 AM PDT by Sloth (John Kerry: Frank Burns with Charles Winchester's pedigree.)
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To: demlosers
The Globe took this angle on the story? Shocking!
86 posted on 08/05/2004 8:17:02 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: Don Simmons

And I thought I was cranky! I bow to your superior crankiness. LOL


87 posted on 08/05/2004 8:17:02 AM PDT by Petronski (I'm not always cranky.)
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To: michaelt

I've been listening to Lucianne Goldberg (sp?), who is filling in for Laura Ingraham...most of the last hour has been focused on the Swift Vets ad...though I didn't hear about McRINO's comments until now.

The thought I had, while exercising prior to work, is that in 2000, to my recollection, George W. Bush did not make his service in the Texas Air National Guard the cornerstone of his campaign for the Presidency. John Kerry IS making his Vietnam service the cornerstone for his campaign.

If Kerry is going to do that, then questions about his service and record are fair game.

Put aside, for the moment, the fact that he threw his medals/ribbons over the White House fence (then lied about it later, and accused the WH of trying to smear him).

Put aside that he is trying to become President based on something that he denigrated (as well as the people who served there) almost as soon as he got back from Vietnam.

None of this is even an issue, if Kerry doesn't MAKE it an issue. And really, what in the world else does Kerry REALLY have to run on? His ultra-liberal 19 years in the Senate?

By the way, as someone posted, I never heard McRINO denounce the efforts to denigrate the service of President Bush, either in the 2000 campaign or any time since.

By the way (part 2), did not the Breck Girl say on the stump, or at the "reinvention convention" (both are boring), "If you want to get to know John Kerry, spend 3 minutes with those who served with them"...

And now that those who DID serve with him, are speaking out against him, McRINO blames it on the White House? That's like a bully who picks a fight, and then runs away...and you know that the majority of the media is not going to help.

Memo to Kerry/Edwards/McRINO: Crap, or get off of the pot.


88 posted on 08/05/2004 8:17:04 AM PDT by Christian4Bush (I approve this message: character and integrity matter. Bush/Cheney '04)
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To: demlosers

McCain should go and talk to the Swiftvets himself.

And then comment.


89 posted on 08/05/2004 8:17:07 AM PDT by SpinyNorman (The (Swiftboat Veterans and Vietnam Veterans for) Truth will set you free!!)
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To: demlosers

John McCain is a disgrace to the Republican party. He panders to the left and is a hero of the moderates. Like most conservatives if I see his face on TV I turn the station. Note to McCain - SHUT UP.


90 posted on 08/05/2004 8:17:29 AM PDT by sasafras (sasafras (The road to hell is paved with good intentions))
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To: demlosers

While Mc Cain was living the good life at the hilton in hanoi.These guys were have to put up with Idiot on a boat.If they want to run an add about john kerry i say go gettem guys.Ye reap what you sow.


91 posted on 08/05/2004 8:17:51 AM PDT by solo gringo (Give us more of Bush/Cheney in o4.)
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To: demlosers

Did McCain defend Bush against the charges of F9/11?

Did he call on the Kerry campaign to denounce the film?


92 posted on 08/05/2004 8:17:59 AM PDT by dawn53
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To: demlosers

Hey McLame - How about a nice steaming cup of shut the *uck up!


93 posted on 08/05/2004 8:18:25 AM PDT by 68 grunt (3/1 India, 3rd, 68-69, 0311)
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To: demlosers

He's probably afraid that McCain's skeletons will come out of the closet again. The truth hurts and nobody wants their feelings to get hurt.


94 posted on 08/05/2004 8:18:42 AM PDT by truthandlife ("Some trust in chariots and some in horses, but we trust in the name of the LORD our God." (Ps 20:7))
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To: demlosers

The McCain-Kerry connection:
http://www.villagevoice.com/issues/0408/schanberg.php


95 posted on 08/05/2004 8:19:03 AM PDT by kabar
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To: Miss Marple

The President will decline to comment and let Americans decide for themselves.


96 posted on 08/05/2004 8:19:16 AM PDT by sarasota
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To: demlosers
This isn't surprising, after all McCain coauthored the CFR thus striking the first blow to kill the first amendment.
McCain, Hatch and Specter, what a sickening excuse for republicans.
98 posted on 08/05/2004 8:19:22 AM PDT by drypowder
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To: demlosers

Ya know, I had a feeling this would happen, but I feel this is just posturing being done to publicly condemn the ads but secretly endorse their ideas. I see the Bush administration doing the same thing, though I hope he doesn't.


99 posted on 08/05/2004 8:19:54 AM PDT by pctech
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To: hoosiermama
I think the Prez should tell McCain publicly, "Senator, while I understand your concern for this ad, I have talked to these Vets personally and from their accounts of the situation, they believe what they say in the ads. As you know, our constitution guarantees the right to free speech, therefore, I will not condemn these men for their recollection of the events at that time"
100 posted on 08/05/2004 8:20:21 AM PDT by curlewbird
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