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Message of Voters in Missouri Against Gay Marriage Leaves Backers Discouraged: HUGE PRIMARY TURNOUT
NY Times ^
| August 5, 2004
| MONICA DAVEY
Posted on 08/04/2004 8:42:02 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: Arkinsaw
I'd bet that many of the people who voted for the amendment are all across the political spectrum. I myself know several libs to moderates here in CA who do not like the idea of "gay marriage", but would support something like civil unions.
I think they're whining because they dropped so much money to defeat it, and lost by an even bigger margin than they expected to, and it always sounds good to them to blame those nasty, mean Republicans.
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posted on
08/04/2004 8:59:17 PM PDT
by
Theresawithanh
( Flush the Johns in 2004!!!!!)
To: neverdem
I question the timing of this vote.....
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posted on
08/04/2004 8:59:30 PM PDT
by
TXBlair
(Eddie Vedder, Bruce Springsteen, Dixie Chicks, et al: Asses Coming Together)
To: neverdem
I am a resident of Missouri and I have a different take on this assumption that voter turn out was high due to the marriage amendment.
I am in Cape Girardeau, and there was no furor to get the vote out to pass this amendment. I think that the gay and lesbian organizations just miscalculated by putting it in the primary instead of general election, thinking that it would be a low vote turnout and that it would squeak pass. But, interest in statewide offices was high, most of all getting rid of Governor Holden. And just think that if they had waited for the general election, the percentage would be even higher due to larger turnout.
To: Theresawithanh
I'd bet that many of the people who voted for the amendment are all across the political spectrum.
I bet you are right. Many, many people who end up voting for Kerry will pull the switch for banning gay marriage.
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posted on
08/04/2004 9:02:29 PM PDT
by
Arkinsaw
To: Always Right
To: neverdem
"Still, we were just a little bit out-organized," said Seth Kilbourn, national field director for the Human Rights Campaign, a Washington group that helped pay for the Missouri opposition. "We can't let that happen again." Hey, morons! Could it be that the people have told you sicko queers loud and clear that they want no part of your perversion, and they certainly don't want to legitimize it? Why not just get over it and slither back into the closet where you belong?
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posted on
08/04/2004 9:03:31 PM PDT
by
sweetliberty
("A wise man's heart inclines him to the right, but a fool's heart to the left." (Eccl. 10:2))
To: Arkinsaw
That line about large numbers of voters is amusing.
Haven't we been told for years that a high voter turnout favors Dem issues and candidates? They have insinuated that Dems voters outnumber GOP voters (they do only when the cemetaries disgorge their residents on election day... we observe Halloween on the wrong day! The dead rise on election eve, not on All Hallows Eve!)
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posted on
08/04/2004 9:03:59 PM PDT
by
ex 98C MI Dude
(Proud Member of the Reagan Republicans)
To: neverdem
"This is what the Democrats biggest fear was - that something would energize the people of faith. And it has." Yeah, the devil always hates it when people of faith get shaken from their complacency and take a stand.
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posted on
08/04/2004 9:04:56 PM PDT
by
sweetliberty
("A wise man's heart inclines him to the right, but a fool's heart to the left." (Eccl. 10:2))
To: TXBlair
You, sir, can shove it! Are you addressing me in particular, and if so, why?
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posted on
08/04/2004 9:06:06 PM PDT
by
neverdem
(Xin loi min oi)
To: ClintonBeGone
Strangly there are some odd members of the right (guys like Bob Barr) who oppose this type of reaction. Why? I haven't a clue. Somehow they think they're protecting the constitution by avoiding it being amendment, meanwhile the society it was gifted to falls apart. I see an admendment as protecting the Constitution from assults by overreaching activist judges who legislate from the bench. Certainly a constitutional amendment reigning in judges from making laws might be a better step, but defining marriage will send a huge message to liberal judges. Judges right now are effectively changing our Constitution from the bench which is a real threat to our whole system government. A marriage amendment is not.
To: Conservababe
You are exactly right.
This was originally set up to be voted on in the General Election in November. The Dem Governor (soon to be ex) sued to move it to the Primary Election. It ended up going to the Missouri Supreme Court (Liberal) and they put it at the Primary Election.
The Gays thought that Primary turnout would be light and they could get their groups out in force. The didn't realize how energized the electorate would be.
Can you say BACKLASH??
To: ClintonBeGone
Isn't Bob Barr also punking for the ACLU now to give some credibility to their anti-Patriot act hysteria?
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posted on
08/04/2004 9:10:25 PM PDT
by
asmith92008
(If we buy into the nonsense that we always have to vote for RINOs, we'll just end up taking the horn)
To: mlbford2
"You have to admit the timing of this amendment vote is very suspicious."
No, very smart! The Demos thought the issue of
"Fetal Stem Cell Research" was going to be their Ace. Fooled you!! This gay marriage issue is also helping us to turn out Mennonite and other non-voting groups in Pennsylvania. ("Don't cry for me, Ma Taresa!")
This and the Vets Against Kerry issue....will sink "Scary Kerry".
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posted on
08/04/2004 9:11:29 PM PDT
by
Winfield
To: michealschultz14527
Where would you draw the line? Or is society just supposed to whistle past the graveyard as its most basic institution is defined out of existence?
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posted on
08/04/2004 9:12:39 PM PDT
by
asmith92008
(If we buy into the nonsense that we always have to vote for RINOs, we'll just end up taking the horn)
To: asmith92008
Isn't Bob Barr also punking for the ACLU now to give some credibility to their anti-Patriot act hysteria?
Yep. He's really fallen off the wagon.
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posted on
08/04/2004 9:12:59 PM PDT
by
ClintonBeGone
(Take the first step in the war on terror - defeat John Kerry)
To: Always Right
"The left is gonna accuse the right of politicing elections...." So what? They're going to make that accusation no matter what we do or do not do. It's because they always make the assumption that we are as dirty as they are.
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posted on
08/04/2004 9:16:29 PM PDT
by
sweetliberty
("A wise man's heart inclines him to the right, but a fool's heart to the left." (Eccl. 10:2))
To: TXBlair
Hey! Leave us outta this. The voters of California passed a Defense of Marriage law a couple of years ago. It was the mayor of San Fran that went against the law and married the happy, shiny people anyway.
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posted on
08/04/2004 9:17:52 PM PDT
by
Deb
(Hey, Sen. Kerry...why the long face?)
To: neverdem
Opponents of the amendments said that they were distressed, even hurt, by the outcome in Missouri... Heaven forfend that the homosexual lobby have its feelings hurt.
Give it up, gays. You can still write your Living and Last Wills to designate anyone you like as your durable power of attorney and beneficiary. Stop trying to horn in on the sanctity of marriage under the guise that you don't already have those very basic legal rights.
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posted on
08/04/2004 9:20:36 PM PDT
by
Prime Choice
(When Clinton lies, he insults our integrity. When Kerry lies, he insults our intelligence.)
To: michealschultz14527
Yeah...just not married.
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posted on
08/04/2004 9:21:05 PM PDT
by
Deb
(Hey, Sen. Kerry...why the long face?)
To: bitt; scripter; cupcakes; lentulusgracchus; ArGee; little jeremiah; ItsOurTimeNow; Bryan
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posted on
08/04/2004 9:21:08 PM PDT
by
EdReform
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