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To: rolling_stone
3) Do you like our current system and do you think it is fair now?
I don't like it but I like it better than the current FairTax proposal.
527 posted on 08/02/2004 10:25:02 AM PDT by Your Nightmare
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To: Your Nightmare
I don't like it but I like it better than the current FairTax proposal.

Alternatives?

530 posted on 08/02/2004 10:25:51 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (John Kerry's America: "Weaker, Deader, Dumber")
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To: Your Nightmare
I don't like it but I like it better than the current FairTax proposal.

Hmmmm....

Income tax: Invasive of taxpayer privacy. Voluminous recordkeeping required, records which can be used against said taxpayer in a court of law.

NRST: nonivasive of taxpayer privacy. No recordkeeping required of individual taxpayer.

Income tax: Penalizes domestic producers of products and services while rewarding foreign producers of products and services who sell in our market.

NRST: Ends penalty and burden on domestic producers, while finally taxing foreign producers who sell in our market.

Income tax: Requires huge IRS bureacracy to administer.

NRST: Ends IRS and implements what all the experts admit is the THE most efficient form of tax collection.

This list could grow very long, if I had the time today.

But your claim that somehow the current system is superior to the FairTax just doesn't stand up to scrutiny.

533 posted on 08/02/2004 10:34:17 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (John Kerry's America: "Weaker, Deader, Dumber")
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To: Your Nightmare

3) Do you like our current system and do you think it is fair now?

I don't like it but I like it better than the current FairTax proposal.

Hmmm!

"A hand from Washington will be stretched out and placed upon every man's business; the eye of the federal inspector will be in every man's counting house....The law will of necessity have inquisical features, it will provide penalties, it will create complicated machinery. Under it men will be hauled into courts distant from their homes. Heavy fines imposed by distant and unfamiliar tribunals will constantly menace the tax payer. An army of federal inspectors, spies, and detectives will descend upon the state."
-- Virginian House Speaker Richard E. Byrd, 1910, predicting the consequences of an income tax.

 

I discussed the importance of abolishing the income tax because of its tendency to form a habit of servility in the souls of a people that accepts it.

Servility of soul is bad not only in itself, it is also an open door through which will soon walk the abuses of ambitious government power.

Leaders who find themselves with governmental power over a servile people will be quick to conclude that such a people exist to serve them.

Alan Keyes 1999

 

There was good reason why Karl Marx and the Communist Party makes the progressive/graduated income tax the 2nd plank of the Manifesto of the Communist Party, by Karl Marx and Frederick Engels, published in 1848. We should never forget nor overlook the philosophical underpinnings of that choice:

"The proletariat will use its political supremacy to wrest, by degree, all capital from the bourgeoisie, to centralize all instruments of production in the hands of the state ... . Of course, in the beginning, this cannot be effected except by means of despotic inroads on the rights of property ... . These measures will, of course, be different in different countries. Nevertheless, in most advanced countries, the following will be pretty generally applicable.

1. Abolition of property in land and application of all rents of land to public purposes.
2. A heavy progressive or graduated income tax.
3. Abolition of all rights of inheritance.
4. Confiscation of the property of all emigrants and rebels.
5. Centralization of credit in the banks of the state, by means of a national bank with state capital and an exclusive monopoly.
6. Centralization of the means of communication and transport in he hands of the state.
7. Extension of factories and instruments of production owned by the state; the bringing into cultivation of waste lands, and the improvement of the soil generally in accordance with a common plan.
8. Equal obligation of all to work. Establishment of industrial armies, especially for agriculture.
9. Combination of agriculture with manufacturing industries; gradual abolition of all the distinction between town and country by a more equable distribution of the populace over the country.
10. Free education for all children in public schools. Abolition of children's factory labor in its present form. Combination of education with industrial production, etc. "


540 posted on 08/02/2004 10:48:02 AM PDT by ancient_geezer (Equality, the French disease: Everyone is equal beneath the guillotine.)
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