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Fahrenheit 9/11 and Its Impact on Military Morale, by a Soldier
Amy Ridenour's National Center Blog ^ | July 26, 2004 | Army Specialist Joe Roche

Posted on 07/26/2004 6:54:44 AM PDT by Cannoneer No. 4

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The enemy has won this battle of the INFOWAR. We must salvage what we can and counterattack while they ululate and dance on the objective.
1 posted on 07/26/2004 6:54:46 AM PDT by Cannoneer No. 4
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To: TEXOKIE; xzins; Alamo-Girl; blackie; SandRat; Calpernia; SAMWolf; prairiebreeze; MEG33; ...

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2 posted on 07/26/2004 6:58:12 AM PDT by Cannoneer No. 4 (I've lost turret power; I have my nods and my .50. Hooah. I will stay until relieved. White 2 out.)
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Michael Moore should be hung for treason. He is a sick sorry bass turd.


3 posted on 07/26/2004 7:01:18 AM PDT by Piquaboy
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That just breaks my heart, that these guys are now ashamed of the great job they did and are doing.

Damn that fat ass Moore. That's all I can say. I hope he is damn proud of what he's done. I'd kick his ass if I saw him.


4 posted on 07/26/2004 7:01:22 AM PDT by eyespysomething (Virtue is learned at a mother's knee...and vices at other joints.)
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"That just breaks my heart, that these guys are now ashamed of the great job they did and are doing."

Mission accomplished, Mike.


5 posted on 07/26/2004 7:05:50 AM PDT by AngieGOP (I never met a woman who became a stripper because she played with Barbie dolls as a kid.)
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Moore, like many leftists, is a master propagandist. I don't think he is abusing the First Amendment, he is just being the anti-American scum he has always been.


6 posted on 07/26/2004 7:06:12 AM PDT by Max Combined
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Section 2388. Activities affecting armed forces during war

a) Whoever, when the United States is at war, willfully makes or conveys false reports or false statements with intent to interfere with the operation or success of the military or naval forces of the United States or to promote the success of its enemies; or Whoever, when the United States is at war, willfully causes or attempts to cause insubordination, disloyalty, mutiny, or refusal of duty, in the military or naval forces of the United States, or willfully obstructs the recruiting or enlistment service of the United States, to the injury of the service or the United States, or attempts to do so - Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both.

7 posted on 07/26/2004 7:08:32 AM PDT by Cannoneer No. 4 (I've lost turret power; I have my nods and my .50. Hooah. I will stay until relieved. White 2 out.)
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Soldiers like this need to send letters to every newspaper they can, every media outlet. Get on Fox if necessary. Get out there and pound the message home that Moore and his cronies are nothing but seditious ba$tards hiding behind the protections of the Constitution that soldiers like this are dying to defend.

I wish a group of them would dump Moore's lard butt into a latrine, where he belongs.

I wonder where "Mr. Vietnam Veteran," Kerry is when "his cadre of brothers" is being defamed and demoralized in the field?

Oh, that's right. Kerry did the same thing in the early seventies.


8 posted on 07/26/2004 7:08:39 AM PDT by SpinyNorman (Kerry: "Taking America Back!" (...to the economic malaise of the Carter administration))
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I find it hard to believe that American soldiers are this easily swayed by one documentary.


9 posted on 07/26/2004 7:09:48 AM PDT by Modernman ("I have nothing to declare except my genius." -Oscar Wilde)
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People forget that the same propaganda worked during the Vietnam War. President Johnson's ties to "big oil" were linked by the leftist media to Shell Oil and to the rubber plantations in Indo-China that were "off limits" and supposed to be immune to attack. The rules of engagement included penalties for damaging oil and rubber resources ... or so many believed, at least.


10 posted on 07/26/2004 7:10:15 AM PDT by First_Salute (May God save our democratic-republican government, from a government by judiciary.)
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Need I even suggest the impact such would have had on Kennedy or Johnson and all their hypocrisies?

That's basically what happened to Johnson (Kennedy was already dead), and later Nixon. with the Viet Nam War at the poing of being won, "public opinion" decided that it was best to cut and run. It appears that Moore is helping to produce the same sort of disenchanted, medal-tossing Kerry-like vets as Viet Nam produced.

Too bad these brave guys aren't bright enough to know scheiss from shinola. The Armed Forces in WW2 were subjected to the morale-lowering broadcasts of Tokyo Rose and Lord Haw-Haw. Moore is more of the same. Our guys need some training from the Military on how not to become easy marks for enemy propagandists.

11 posted on 07/26/2004 7:12:29 AM PDT by Sans-Culotte
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Bump

12 posted on 07/26/2004 7:12:50 AM PDT by SAMWolf (I tried to play my shoehorn... all I got was footnotes!)
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To: Modernman
Not too hard to believe when you consider that most are products of the socialist government indoctrination centers.

IMHO, most, short of parental or other caring intervention and deprgogramming, or extraordinary perception, have beed conditioned to be swayed by such things.

13 posted on 07/26/2004 7:15:11 AM PDT by Jeff Head (www.dragonsfuryseries.com)
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I wish we could get word back to Specialist Roche that much of America sees right through the lies and deceptions of Moore's spewage. Moore has put this stuff into a twisted context of his own choosing. I'd like for those who are over there serving us to know that there are plenty of us back home not only proud of what they've done, but also detest what Moore has done. He may be proud of his work, but I wouldn't be if I were him.


14 posted on 07/26/2004 7:16:18 AM PDT by Ohioan from Florida (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.- Edmund Burke)
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Moore is a traitor. The people who have knowingly supported his lies and deception are traitors. Harsh words, but accurate in my opinion. Unfortunately, nothing will ever be done, and that will only embolden these same people to do this over again. At least I know God will sort this all out in the end.
15 posted on 07/26/2004 7:17:30 AM PDT by saleman
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This needs to get out to the media. People need to tell their local news outlets how devastating this is.
16 posted on 07/26/2004 7:17:51 AM PDT by gilliam
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To: Modernman
I find it hard to believe that American soldiers are this easily swayed by one documentary.

Come on, think of what they hear from the press then this. They are just young men and women, they aren't seasoned politicians.

17 posted on 07/26/2004 7:19:48 AM PDT by gilliam
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As i have written before if the US were fighting the Third Reich today US presstitutes would be churning off an endless sheaf of stories showing (a) the US armed forces were inept and incompetent, (b) the strategic bombing campaign was little more than deliberate murder of civilians, and (c) the German armed forces were a far more business like and soldierly set of combatants than our army and they were fighting a defensive war with great competence against the overwhelming material superiority of the allies. One can just imagine the kind of stories that such events as the 35th Divisions disasterous attempt to cross the Volturno River, or the friendly fire mass slaughter of the 82nd ABN by the Navy at the Sicily landing, or the multiple missteps and fumbles that led to the Anzio operation turning into a besieged beachhead. If the media will make common cause with the Jihadists by waving the 'fair and balanced coverage' banner they will never find an enemy of the US that they won't attempt to boost while producing demoralizing and defeatist stories about US forces. The Germans in World War One had to pay corrupt French journalists like Paul Bolo for this sort of thing the US press does voluntarily. These people genuinely hate the United States and feel that as does Mr. Moore we are 'the stupidest people on earth' and they absolutely loath average Americans.
18 posted on 07/26/2004 7:20:47 AM PDT by robowombat
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People forget that the same propaganda worked during the Vietnam War.

The same propaganda was used in WWII only then our media didn't side with the propagandist.

19 posted on 07/26/2004 7:21:05 AM PDT by gilliam
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Thank you, Cannoneer No. 4.

Also posted here:

 The inhumane reign of Saddam Hussein: Pt. 3 - USA Today, LA Times

We need to send Spc. Roche some good stuff to counter the truly hurtful, hateful, destructive, cruel, lies being spread by our blind and reckless fellow Americans.

Prayers and tears for our honorable warriors and their just cause.

20 posted on 07/26/2004 7:21:06 AM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl
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