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Threat Matrix: Daily Terror Threat - Thread Fifteen
CNN ^ | 07/25/04 | N/A

Posted on 07/24/2004 9:37:20 PM PDT by JustPiper

Edited on 07/25/2004 2:39:52 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]




Credit: The Cabal

The title refers to a daily report given to the president of the United States detailing the most serious terrorist threats against the country. To tackle those threats, the government has formed a top-notch task force to infiltrate the terror cells and cut off the danger.

"Every morning, the president receives a list of the top ten terrorist threats - this list is known as the threat matrix."

We here at FR are trying to be in conjunction with the daily reports around the world that involve threats. We try to provide a storehouse of information that takes hours of research.

YOU be the Judge and get informed.


"I will never cower before any master nor bend to any threat."



Group linked to al Qaeda warns of 'columns of car bombs'

Australia and Italy have received warnings through a statement purportedly from militants linked to al Qaeda that demanded those countries withdraw troops from Iraq.






We are the "Stotters" who make ourselves aware of the enemy who wishes to do us harm.



Meet It!
Greet It!
Defeat It!



LINK TO THREAD FOURTEEN


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To: jstolzen; All

This a reminder that FR will be down for 2 hours
starting at midnight CA time. So then we might
want to jump over to Thebacals.


221 posted on 07/25/2004 10:08:19 AM PDT by drymans wife (Clintoon Saga continues, MONICAGATE, TROUSERGATE, I did not put those papers in his pants.)
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To: JustPiper; Kinetic
Thanks to both of you for thread 15.

Kinetic, it's a beauty!

222 posted on 07/25/2004 10:12:08 AM PDT by Oorang ( Those who trade liberty for security have neither)
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To: All
From the "Never Submit" Department:

Australia Blames Philippines, Spain for Terrorist Threats

Alexander Downer Australia's foreign minister is blaming Spain and the Philippines for encouraging an Islamic militant group to threaten Australia with terrorist attacks, if it does not withdraw from Iraq.

VOA News
223 posted on 07/25/2004 10:12:12 AM PDT by HipShot ("there is no reason to suspect terrorism")
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To: milkncookies

Yikes!


224 posted on 07/25/2004 10:13:07 AM PDT by null and void (Nurieek, rotut, hernunger...)
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To: null and void

Agreed. Double yikes.


225 posted on 07/25/2004 10:25:52 AM PDT by Judith Anne (Just another Bush-bot biddy drinking that Republican KoolAid.)
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To: Judith Anne; All

Just got on....any horrific updates beyond the norm?

Son called last night- he was delivering goods near the Limerick Nuclear Plant in PA---said it looked like a war zone- copters and jets overflying, soldiers, police, fire trucks., spot lights...still think they need to check FROM THE WATER (divers)


226 posted on 07/25/2004 10:33:08 AM PDT by jerseygirl
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To: JustPiper

Chicago or Chinatown?


227 posted on 07/25/2004 10:38:47 AM PDT by jerseygirl
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To: DAVEY CROCKETT

Counties near Buffalo have been experiencing incidents of people becoming quite ill.


228 posted on 07/25/2004 10:40:20 AM PDT by jerseygirl
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To: LayoutGuru2

Perhaps the code that the feds asked NEIN to pull?


229 posted on 07/25/2004 10:41:57 AM PDT by jerseygirl
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To: jerseygirl

from milkncookies above, post 220, an ugly scenario...Australia is being threatened with terror acts unless they pull out of Iraq...couple of other things...special forces masquerading as bums in NYC to prevent terror acts, esp during convention...that's all I can think of at the moment, just got a homemade fresh from the tree peach pie out of the oven.


230 posted on 07/25/2004 10:42:12 AM PDT by Judith Anne (Just another Bush-bot biddy drinking that Republican KoolAid.)
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To: HipShot

any kook on the left who would believe Bush allowed AQ to strike in Boston to "take out the DNC" - is already so far over the line, that it doesn't matter. I don't think AQ would be able to sell that agenda and pull a Madrid on Bush with it.

just saw some footage on Fox News, looks like most of the violence will come from Democratic operatives attacking anti-abortion protestors. where were the police to break that up, if security is supposed to be so high?


231 posted on 07/25/2004 10:42:20 AM PDT by oceanview
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To: LayoutGuru2

Perhaps the code that the feds asked NEIN to pull?


232 posted on 07/25/2004 10:43:04 AM PDT by jerseygirl
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To: All
More from Spetsnaz. The Story Behind the Soviet SAS

* * *

The spetsnaz network of agents has much in common with international terrorism, a common centre, for example — yet they are different things and must not be confused. It would be foolhardy to claim that international terrorism came into being on orders from Moscow. But to claim that, without Moscow's support, international terrorism would never have assumed the scale it has would not be rash. Terrorism has been born in a variety of situations, in various circumstances and in different kinds of soil. Local nationalism has always been a potent source, and the

Soviet Union supports it in any form, just as it offers concrete support to extremist groups operating within nationalist movements. Exceptions are made, of course, of the nationalist groups within the Soviet Union and the countries under its influence.

If groups of extremists emerge in areas where there is no sure Soviet influence, you may be sure that the Soviet Union will very shortly be their best friend. In the GRU alone there are two independent and very powerful bodies dealing with questions relating to extremists and terrorists. First, there is the 3rd Direction of the GRU which studies terrorist organisations and ways of penetrating them. Then there is the 5th Directorate which is in charge of all intelligence-gathering at lower levels, including that of spetsnaz.

The GRU's tactics toward terrorists are simple: never give them any orders, never tell them what to do. They are destroying Western civilisation: they know how to do it, the argument goes, so let them get on with it unfettered by petty supervision. Among them there are idealists ready to die for their own ideas. So let them die for them. The most important thing is to preserve their illusion that they are completely free and independent.

Moscow is an important centre of international terrorism, not because it is from Moscow that instructions are issued, but because selected terrorist groups or organisations which ask for help may be given it if little risk is attached to doing so. Moscow's deep involvement with terrorism is a serious political affair. One 'resistance movement' has to have more financial help, another less. One 'Red Army' must have modern weapons and an unlimited supply of ammunition, another one will do better with old weapons and a limited supply of ammunition. One movement is to be recognised, while another will be condemned in words but supported in practice. 'Independent' terrorists give little thought to where the money comes from with which they travel the countries of the world, or who provides the Kalashnikov submachine-guns and the cartridges to go with them, or who supplies the instructors who teach them and train them.

But just look at the 'independent' Palestines: they virtually throw their ammunition away. And if one watches a film about the fighting in Afghanistan and then one from the streets of Beirut the difference is very striking. The Afghan resistance fighters count every round, whereas the groups fighting each other in the streets of Beirut don't even bother to aim when they fire; they simply fire into the air in long bursts, although it means they are wasting someone else's money. Whose money is it?

When I was beginning my military service I was taught to count every round. Cartridges are metal and a lot of hard work. It is more difficult and more expensive to make a cartridge than to make a fountain pen. And another reason for being careful with ammunition is so that you are never without it at a critical moment. Supplying an army with ammunition is a complex logistical problem. If the transport carrying ammunition arrives even a few minutes after you have spent all your ammunition without thinking, then you are dead. But there are no such problems in Beirut. Nobody tells the conflicting groups what the ammunition costs. Nobody tells them the cost of the lives they cut off every day. Nobody mentions the danger that the regular supply of ammunition may be late. The suppliers are certain that it will not be late.

* * *

The Soviet Union condemns the civil war in the Lebanon. But there is no need for it to condemn the war. All it has to do is hold back the next transport of ammunition, and war will cease.

Apart from military and financial support, the Soviet Union also provides the terrorists aid in the form of training. Training centres have been set up in the Soviet Union for training terrorists from a number of different countries. Similar centres have been set up in the countries of Eastern Europe, in Cuba and elsewhere. I know the centre in Odessa very well. Officially it belongs to the 10th Chief Directorate of the General Staff which deals with the export of weapons, sends Soviet military advisers to foreign countries and trains foreigners to be fighters and terrorists. In the early 1960s this centre was a branch of the higher infantry officers school. An intelligence faculty was formed in it for Soviet students, many of whom ended up in the GRU and spetsnaz, while the remainder of the huge area, classrooms and living quarters, was given over entirely to the centre for training foreign fighters. When I was in Odessa most of the people under training were intended for work in black Africa. Not all of them came from Africa, quite a lot of them were from Cuba, but that was where the majority were destined. The difference between the training and the living conditions of the Soviet and the foreign students was tremendous.

The foreigners were better fed and wore Soviet officers' field uniforms, though without any badges of rank. They had practically no theoretical tuition at all. But their practical training was very concentrated, even by Soviet standards. For them there was no shortage of ammunition. Shooting went on in their camp day and night.

The foreigners were kept in strict isolation. The only outsiders who could see them were the Soviet students and then only through the barbed wire. The total isolation had a bad effect on some of the foreign students. But since they could not break out of it, the Cuban minister of defence stepped in and ordered some girls to be sent from Cuba who were trained as nurses for partisan units at the Odessa centre. It was interesting to note that the soldiers were under training for one year and the officers for two years, but the nurses' training lasted ten years or more. At the end of their training the nurses were sent back to Cuba and some younger ones were sent to replace them. There were no more psychological problems at the training centre.

* * *

Foreigners belonging to 'liberation movements' who turn up in the Soviet Union are not generally recruited by the Soviet intelligence services. Experience has shown that the terrorist who considers himself independent and who kills people because of his own beliefs is more effective than the one who fights on the orders of other people. For his own ideas the terrorist will take risks and sacrifice his life, but he is scarcely likely to do so merely on instructions from foreigners. So why recruit him?

But there are important exceptions. Every terrorist is studied carefully during his training, and among them will be noted the potential leaders and the born rebels who will not submit to any authority. Of equal importance are the students' weaknesses and ambitions, and their relationships with one another. Some time, many years ahead, one of them may become an important leader, but not one approved by Moscow, so it is vital to know in advance who his likely friends and enemies will be.

As the students are themselves studied during training, some emerge as exceptions among the crowd and as likely material for recruitment. Recruitment at the training centres is carried on simultaneously by two different GRU organisations. The 3rd Direction recruits informers, who will subsequently remain inside the 'national liberation movements' and will pass on to the heads of the GRU the internal secrets of the movements. The 5th Directorate of the GRU recruits some of the students to be part of the spetsnaz network of agents. This is a fairly complicated process. Formally the candidate remains in his 'liberation movement' and works there. In fact he starts to operate on instructions from the GRU. It is a very delicate situation and all possible steps are taken to protect the reputation of the USSR in case of failure. With this aim in view the carefully selected candidate, unaware of his position, is transferred to training in one of the countries under Soviet influence. Recruitment then takes place, but not by Soviet Intelligence, rather by the Intelligence service of one of the Soviet satellite countries.

The recruitment of a full-blown terrorist is a very different matter from the recruitment of an informer-agent. The terrorist has to go through very tough training which becomes a daily, and a nightly nightmare. He dreams of the training coming to an end: he yearns for the real thing. The instructors talk to him and ask him what he would like, as a terrorist, to do. The terrorist tells them. The instructors then 'think about it' and a few days later tell him it is not possible. The torture of the training continues. Again the question of what he wants to do is raised, and again he is turned down. Various reasons are given for refusing him: we value your life too highly to send you on such a risky mission; such an act might have unwanted repercussions on your family, your comrades, and so on. Thus the range of choice is gradually narrowed down until the terrorist suggests exactly what the heads of Soviet Military intelligence want. They 'think about it' for a few days and finally give their agreement in such a way that it does not appear to be something wanted by the GRU but rather a compromise or a concession to the terrorist: if he really thinks it necessary to do it, no obstacles will be put in his way.

I have of course simplified a process which is in practice a very complicated affair.

The reward for the GRU is that a terrorist doing work for spetsnaz does not, in the great majority of cases, suspect he is being used. He is utterly convinced that he is acting independently, of his own will and by his own choice. The GRU does not leave its signature or his fingerprints around.

Even in cases where it is not a question of individual terrorists but of experienced leaders of terrorist organisations, the GRU takes extraordinary steps to ensure that not only all outsiders but even the terrorist leader himself should not realise the extent of his subordination to spetsnaz and consequently to the GRU. The leader of the terrorists has a vast field of action and a wide choice. But there are operations and acts of terrorism on which spetsnaz will spend any amount of money, will provide any kind of weapon, will help in obtaining passports and will organise hiding places. But there are also terrorist acts for which spetsnaz has no money, no weapons, no reliable people and no hiding places. The leader of the terrorists is at complete liberty to choose the mission he wants, but without weapons, money and other forms of support his freedom to choose is suddenly severely curtailed.
233 posted on 07/25/2004 10:44:34 AM PDT by milkncookies (Hillary to Berger: Is there something in your pants or are you just happy to see me?)
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To: freeperfromnj

right. or, some major car bomb/suicide attack in iraq just a few minutes before Bush's speech at the NY convention. The media would probably air that in a split screen next to Bush giving his speech. That's the kind of stuff AQ wants, and they know they have a friend in the US media to help them.


234 posted on 07/25/2004 10:44:44 AM PDT by oceanview
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To: MWestMom

Please recall the red cross post-disaster list of cities


235 posted on 07/25/2004 10:45:39 AM PDT by jerseygirl
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To: grizzfan

If you transpose the map of the red dots (Red cross post disaster hiring list) it correlates quite well with the carved out areas on the east coast, Houston, parts of Florida, Seattle (on the fractured US map).

However, it does not correlate at all with the huge expanse in the midsection of the country where those three "stars-explosions" are shown.


236 posted on 07/25/2004 10:50:12 AM PDT by jerseygirl
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Final post from Spetsnaz. The Story Behind the Soviet SAS:

"For Soviet Communists the month of August has a special significance. It was in August that the First World War began, which resulted in revolutions in Russia, Germany and Hungary. In August 1939 Georgi Zhukov succeeded in doing something that no one before him had managed to do: with a sudden blow he routed a group of Japanese forces in the Far East. It is possible that that blow had very far-reaching consequences: Japan decided against attacking the Soviet Union and chose to advance in other directions. Also in August 1939 a pact was signed in the Kremlin which opened the flood gates for the Second World War, as a result of which the USSR became a super-power. In August 1945 the Soviet Union carried out a treacherous attack on Japan and Manchuria. In the course of three weeks of intensive operations huge territories roughly equal in area and population to Eastern Europe were 'liberated'. In August 1961 the Soviet Union built the Berlin Wall, in violation of international agreements it had signed. In August 1968 the Soviet Army 'liberated' Czechoslovakia and, to its great surprise, did not meet with any opposition from the West. Suppose the Soviet Communists again choose August for starting a war...."
237 posted on 07/25/2004 10:50:33 AM PDT by milkncookies (Hillary to Berger: Is there something in your pants or are you just happy to see me?)
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To: oceanview

Fox reporter said the far leftie protesters didn't want Fox to film them fighting with the other protesters. Fox said too bad.


238 posted on 07/25/2004 10:54:25 AM PDT by Judith Anne (Just another Bush-bot biddy drinking that Republican KoolAid.)
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To: oceanview

But recall all those small Mass. cities on the red cross disaster list- all were placed in areas that would be escape routes for Boston


239 posted on 07/25/2004 10:55:30 AM PDT by jerseygirl
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To: freeperfromnj

Also- Harrisburg just may well be their "demonstration" city. The Muslims have VACATED. And it is small enough to take out with one small nuke hit. And would be a symbolic payback to Ridge.


240 posted on 07/25/2004 10:57:09 AM PDT by jerseygirl
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