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Cynthia McKinney (D) is headed back to Congress
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Posted on 07/21/2004 7:15:33 AM PDT by Mr. D

Cynthia McKinney (D) is headed back to Congress after the controversial five-term ex-lawmaker won a plurality in Georgia's 4th district primary Tuesday, avoiding what had been widely considered an all but inevitable runoff.


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To: Blessed; AuH2ORepublican

then, as a different angle on the same problem - why the HELL are utterly unrelated positions voted for on the same day?
Why must I be forced to choose a straight republican ticket in order to vote for my US Senatorial candidate-of-choice, and by doing so be forced to give up my ability to vote for local judges, county reps, sherrif, state reps, etc... ALL DEMOCRAT.

One way or another, this crap state of affairs needs to be changed, so that my ability to vote for whom I choose is NOT artificailly limited.


81 posted on 07/21/2004 1:00:32 PM PDT by King Prout ("Thou has been found guilty and convicted of malum zambonifactum most foul... REPENT!)
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To: Mr. D

This is an absolute disgrace for the 4th in GA. If this can happen, anything can happen, and probably will.


82 posted on 07/21/2004 1:03:29 PM PDT by devane617
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To: The Scourge of Yazid
>To be honest, even the conservatives tactics in this race are kind of befuddling. I mean, considering Isackson's lack of popularity among primary voters statewide, you figured that the right wing could have unified behind one, well known, well funded candidate.<

Isakson did unify the primary voters statewide.He won 155 of 159 counties(I may be off by 1 or 2)He also had the monetary support of Ga. Conservatives.Cain raised 70% of his funds outside of Ga.70% of his instate funds came from one exclusive zip code.Isakson raised 95% of his $5.4 million campaign fund in-state.Remember Free Republic is not a representative sample of conservatives.
83 posted on 07/21/2004 1:08:51 PM PDT by Blessed
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To: GAGOPSWEEPTOVICTORY

Do you think the ACLU will take either of the two losers' case?

NOT!!!


84 posted on 07/21/2004 1:12:02 PM PDT by BushisTheMan
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To: King Prout

The only answer I can give you is take a refresher coarse in American government and talk to someone over 40 who votes and remembers how it used to be in Ga.If you really think about it rather than deal with it emotionally the answer will come to you.


85 posted on 07/21/2004 1:12:26 PM PDT by Blessed
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To: Blessed

honey, if you want to have any chance of getting elected locally in Brooks County, you are a Democrat. PERIOD.
If you, as a voter, want to have any say in local politics, you vote Democrat in local elections. PERIOD.
The fact that this primary combined the selection of a US-Senate candidate and a large number of locally important candidates severely undermined "republican" turnout in this county. PERIOD.

There is NO REASON for this state of affairs, save machine-politics.
You think I'm going to be happy about it?

This crap state of affairs needs changing.


86 posted on 07/21/2004 1:18:46 PM PDT by King Prout ("Thou has been found guilty and convicted of malum zambonifactum most foul... REPENT!)
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To: socal_parrot
Here's my "Jerry Maguire" gloss on your amusing graphic.

SHOW ME THE MARBLES!

87 posted on 07/21/2004 1:30:11 PM PDT by The Scourge of Yazid ("How do you get someone to stop taking drugs? In short, you don't.")
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To: King Prout

It was the same way in all 159 counties when Isakson and Coverdale started 30 years ago.I saw a very good county commissioner get beat in the republican primary because the senate race that year was Young against Cleland and the Gop either had 1 candidate or a looney.I can't remember which.

Times change.The Democrats have the same complaint you do in about 25 of the largest counties in the state.


88 posted on 07/21/2004 1:44:52 PM PDT by Blessed
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To: MadIvan
Look on the bright side, at least she's not in the private economy where she could do even worse damage.

I don't think so. As a Congres Critter she can do much more damage *to* the private economy, not to mention our rights and freedoms, than she ever could out in the "real world". The real world prunes the grossly incompetant, or at the very least punishes failure. The loony bin on the Hill often seems to reward it.

89 posted on 07/21/2004 1:46:54 PM PDT by El Gato (Federal Judges can twist the Constitution into anything.. Or so they think.)
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To: gsrinok
There's absolutley no chance of a Republican winning that gerrymandered district.

Doesn't look too badly Gerrymandered. You should see some of the ones in Texas, both before and after the recent (Republican) re-districting.

Georgia's 4th Congressional District

90 posted on 07/21/2004 2:01:14 PM PDT by El Gato (Federal Judges can twist the Constitution into anything.. Or so they think.)
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To: King Prout

"then, as a different angle on the same problem - why the HELL are utterly unrelated positions voted for on the same day?"



To save money, I guess. I think it would be preferable for the GOP and the Democrats to hold their primaries for partisan elective office on a different day than the votes for sheriff, etc., but I guess the parties would have to be willing to pay for the extra primary.


91 posted on 07/21/2004 2:06:43 PM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice, moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.)
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To: Blessed

you still haven't presented a valid reason for it.

the point, to me, from my Civics 101 point of view, is to allow the people the freedom to choose the best candidates for a specific list of jobs, not lock them into damned party machine politics.

what is more important to you:
Party clout, irrespective of getting the job DONE in a manner which is both constitutionally sound and in service to the entire constituency
-or-
Getting the job DONE in a manner which is both constitutionally sound and in service to the entire constituency, irrespective of Party clout?


92 posted on 07/21/2004 2:07:47 PM PDT by King Prout ("Thou has been found guilty and convicted of malum zambonifactum most foul... REPENT!)
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To: AuH2ORepublican

since, presumably, this actually comes out of the State Budget, why not present it to the voters? It is our money, after all, and it can't cost THAT much.


93 posted on 07/21/2004 2:10:08 PM PDT by King Prout ("Thou has been found guilty and convicted of malum zambonifactum most foul... REPENT!)
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To: Mr. D

Just heard the funniest bit on local Atlanta radio talk show "The Kimmer"

They had Tom Brokaw on the newsmaker line (parody). They had him saying Cynthia's acceptance speech last night started with:

"Ax not what you can do for al Qaeda, ax what al Qaeda can do for you"


94 posted on 07/21/2004 2:13:41 PM PDT by Republican Red (Is that a classified document in your pants Sandy or are you just glad to see me?)
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To: King Prout

The answer is easier ballot access in the general election for independent candidates not resticting the right of parties to nominate who they want and how they want to.When they make me king we will go back to smoke filled rooms and do away with presidential preference primaries.

Just run a good man for County Commissioner or sheriff on the Republican ticket. win a few general elections "build the party and they will come."


95 posted on 07/21/2004 2:18:01 PM PDT by Blessed
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To: King Prout

"since, presumably, this actually comes out of the State Budget, why not present it to the voters? It is our money, after all, and it can't cost THAT much."



Not a bad idea, but if the parties don't want to do it it won't pass.


96 posted on 07/21/2004 3:24:21 PM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice, moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.)
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To: AuH2ORepublican

hrmn... I don't give a flip what the parties want.
the parties had better learn to want what we the people tell 'em to want.
how would one best go about motivating the voters to make noise about this issue?


97 posted on 07/21/2004 3:29:46 PM PDT by King Prout ("Thou has been found guilty and convicted of malum zambonifactum most foul... REPENT!)
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To: Mr. D

McKinney and political mentor, 'KoKo'.
98 posted on 07/21/2004 3:37:22 PM PDT by O.C. - Old Cracker (When the cracker gets old, you wind up with Old Cracker. - O.C.)
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To: Mr. D
Cynthia McKinney to Make Historic Webcast Address on Hip-Hop

"Soon, it will be a Hip Hop World. I care what kind of world the Hip Hop Generation inherits." -Cynthia McKinney / June 15, 2004

99 posted on 07/21/2004 3:43:52 PM PDT by O.C. - Old Cracker (When the cracker gets old, you wind up with Old Cracker. - O.C.)
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To: King Prout

"how would one best go about motivating the voters to make noise about this issue?"



I have no idea what kind of laws you have in GA regarding initiatives and referenda, but unless your laws are as "progressive" as those of California, only the state legislature can pass laws or propose constitutional amendments.


100 posted on 07/21/2004 4:04:36 PM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice, moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.)
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