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The problems come when different factions define those goals differently and aggresively. Then you end up with infighting.

Such as when, beginning especially in the mid to latter 1800's, the naturalists set out to take over academe. If you look at the hubris that is Andrew White's "The History of the Warfare of Science with Theology in Christendom" you'll see how, by the beginning of the 20th century, they thought they had won.

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they thought they had won.

But, with very few exceptions, haven't they? People's minds are as free as they want them to be, but it seems the institutions of academe' are almost seamlessly un- if not anti-Christian.