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Cool. My oldest will be seventeen in 2012...
1 posted on 07/20/2004 4:20:22 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback
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2 posted on 07/20/2004 4:28:29 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (Get in the fight today: Freepmail me to get on your state's KerryTrack Ping list!)
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A couple of the best religion professors at Wake Forest (from my time there in the 1970's) have moved to Baylor - both top-flight academics and professing classical Christians, but certainly not fundamentalists.


3 posted on 07/20/2004 4:30:47 PM PDT by bin2baghdad
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My fiancee who is converting to Judaism is transferring to a private Christian univeristy in January.

It's a much better school than the local public university, and the faculty is unabashedly conservative.... light years beyond the AZ state university system faculty which is unabashedly communist for the most part.


4 posted on 07/20/2004 4:32:59 PM PDT by adam_az (Call your State Republican Party office and VOLUNTEER!!!!)
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My daughter (the real cowgirlcutie) will be transferring to Baylor this fall. She has worked her little heart out to get there and this was just one of the reasons.


6 posted on 07/20/2004 4:37:13 PM PDT by cowgirlcutie (wor)
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Cheers for Baylor! The Christian intellectual tradition is rich and powerful, and encompasses both Catholic and Protestant thought. Properly understood it is more than a match for the shallow secularism that dominates today's culture. Western civilization during the dark ages was preserved in Irish monasteries. Perhaps our own civilization will survive thanks to places like Baylor.
7 posted on 07/20/2004 4:38:40 PM PDT by Malesherbes
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I admire their vision and hope the plan succeeds in bringing back everything Harvard was at its inception.

On a lighter, slightly OT note, do they also have a plan to improve in Big 12 athletics?

19 posted on 07/20/2004 8:10:09 PM PDT by T-Bird45
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To: Mr. Silverback; cowgirlcutie; I-53
I-53, I just pinged you to because it's impolite to speak about other posters without pinging them, you really don't need to reply to me.

Mr. Silverback & Cowgirlcutie,
First, don't worry about I-53, posting back just encourages guys like him. Second, I've had some contact with Baylor and can tell you a little about what's going on, but I don't work for them, so I can't really give you an inside view. Sloan isn't very popular with faculty, and they've had two "no-confidence" votes on him. He barely held onto the Presidency in a vote from the board of regents about a year ago. The building program is very expensive, but he is turning the campus into a beautiful facility.

The religious clause is fairly simple, and is aimed at ensuring that Christians are teaching. Non-Christians don't like it, but it's a reasonable goal, I think, for a college that seeks to be a Christian university. I debated theology pretty heavily for a while with one of the students at Truett Theological Seminary, and they are liberal theologians. For example, they teach the JEDP theory as fact. We didn't discuss New Testament much, but I suspect they toe the line to liberal theology on that as well. The basketball murder shook the entire campus, and made Baylor rethink it's athletic program. Except for football, Baylor is competitive in Big 12 athletics. I don't see Baylor ever being very competitive in football. They actually wouldn't be in the Big 12, except Ann Richards and Bob Bullock (both Baylor grads) refused to let the other old SWC schools leave unless Baylor was included. Personally, I think if Baylor had a chance to bolt to the Ivy League, they'd leave the Big 12 in a minute. They aspire to be Harvard, not Nebraska.

Baylor has worked hard to mend fences with the Texas Baptists, but there is still quite a bit of tension. A lot of Baylor's future will hinge on whether or not they get the Bush Presidential Library. Many here think they are strongly in the running because they've overhauled the campus and Bush lives close by. This would launch them into the top tier of college campuses. With the LBJ Library in Austin, and the Bush I Library at A&M, I think they've got a good chance, although SMU might also have a shot, since Bush is a Methodist and they're in the Metroplex. I'm hoping for Baylor, because the Library will mean much more to Waco than it would to Dallas Fort Worth.

Baylor will survive, but it's treading some tough waters at this time. However, they are also making significant progress. Hope this info helps.

RK

41 posted on 07/21/2004 9:34:00 PM PDT by Richard Kimball (We sleep soundly in our beds because rough men are ready to do violence on our behalf)
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Some suggest that “top tier” scholarship and an “unapologetically Christian worldview” are mutually exclusive.

And some people just want to persist in being dolts. You may also want to consider Spring Arbor University.
45 posted on 07/21/2004 10:18:01 PM PDT by aruanan
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