Posted on 07/20/2004 1:43:56 PM PDT by maquiladora
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Some Fort Detrick Labs Closed 10:25 AM
Jul 20, 2004 10:25 am US/Eastern
Frederick, MD (WJZ)
Federal agents are combing a number of laboratory suites at Fort Detrick in Frederick for evidence of the 2001 anthrax attacks.
Fort Detrick spokesman Charles Dasey says the labs have been closed since Friday at the U.S. Army Medical Research Institute of Infectious Diseases, home to the Army's biological warfare defense program.
A law enforcement source tells The Associated Press that the activity is related to the anthrax mailings that killed five people and sickened 17 in October of 2001.
FBI agents have frequently visited Fort Detrick since the
unsolved attacks amid speculation that the deadly spores or the person who sent them may have come from Fort Detrick.
(© 2004 CBS Worldwide Inc. All Rights Reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed. The Associated Press contributed to this report. )
To see what would happen if they 'sold' some,.....'here and there'......to wealthy third parties and industries......
(Exactly,...who [how many member U.N. nation hospitals] have 'access' to the U.N. 'labs'....?
(Exactly,.....how long has this been going on...?)
Exactly,.....What 'is' a black,...'BLACK' market....?
Answer:
'To the international (low profile) mattresses........'
Thanks for the ping!
FYI.......ping
Bump# 249 and # 250
bmp
They have the 'names' and 'addresses' (codes) of all of the 'traitors'.....
IMO
What U.N. labs?
I looked at the samples on that website; it's good to see some actual documentary evidence. But I'm not at all convinced that these are in the same hand. There is a vague similarity, but do you really think it's any more than that?
The Iraqi Justice Ministry has announced that one of them will be released on bail. Debka has its version of events here.
What are the odds that Ammash and Taha are "Alpha" and "Charlie", mentioned by David Kay a year ago?
"Spies close in on Saddam's ailing terror mastermind"
Richard Miniter, Baghdad
The Sunday Times, 16 November 2003
AMERICAN and British intelligence are in secret negotiations to seize Saddam Hussein's right-hand man. General Izzat Ibrahim al-Douri, Saddam's former deputy, is believed to be at the pinnacle of a pyramid of terrorists, mercenaries and supporters of the old regime waging war on allied forces in Iraq.
Exclusive interviews with Paul Bremer, who runs the US-led coalition provisional authority, Dr David Kay, head of the Iraqi survey group that is searching for Saddam's weapons, and senior military and intelligence officers in Iraq have revealed that the Americans have stepped up their efforts to seize al-Douri and stem the flow of terrorist attacks.
The hunt for al-Douri, number six on the list of America's 55 most wanted and who is reported to have suffered from leukaemia and heart problems, has intensified as the insurgency has grown in the past two weeks. The number of attacks has grown to 33 a day, compared with 15 daily in September. The Americans believe they have leverage.
"Al-Douri is about to die. His supporters are begging us for treatment," said Colonel Steven Boltz, a senior US army intelligence officer in Baghdad.
The Iraqi general has announced his terms: medical treatment, a full pardon for any crimes against humanity committed in Iraq or Kuwait and a firm promise that he will not be extradited to Kuwait.
The Americans were not willing to arrange a deal that would favour him, but discussions were opened through a Kurdish member of the Iraqi governing council and are now being pursued directly with US and British intelligence officers.
"Al-Douri would be a major get," said Kay. "He would know where the weapons of mass destruction are hidden, where Saddam is."
Asked if the coalition had current credible intelligence that Saddam was still in Iraq, Boltz looked at his commanding officer and then said simply: "Yes."
Following the capture or killing of most of Saddam's senior officials, including his sons, Qusay and Uday, the loss of al-Douri would not only further isolate the ousted dictator but would also remove his key link with the financiers of the attacks on allied forces in Iraq.
Bremer said the mounting attacks on allied forces and Iraqi police were motivated by money, not ideology. More than three-quarters of direct and indirect attacks on allied forces were paid for, he said.
Al-Douri is likely to be using cash from more than $1billion looted by Saddam loyalists from the Iraqi Central Bank. According to an intelligence source, he is believed to be in charge of those funds and therefore of a network of about 2,500 local militants, plus perhaps 1,000 foreign fighters, drawn from the ranks of Al-Qaeda and Ansar al-Islam, an Islamist terror group operating in Kurdish territory.
In the wider hunt, Kay insisted that the search for weapons of mass destruction was going well. "Contrary to what you read in the press, senior detainees are talking," Kay said -and they are providing leads on terrorists, foreign fighters, future attacks and chemical weapons. He revealed that America had built a state-of-the-art base to interrogate prisoners near Baquba, north of Baghdad.
Two top Iraqi scientists, codenamed Charlie and Alpha, are helping the coalition to learn more about Iraq's anthrax programme, Kay said. The Iraqis had made shocking innovations in the milling and drying processes needed to weaponise anthrax. "Almost every week there is a new discovery that boggles your mind," Kay said.
He had recently learnt that Saddam had paid the North Koreans a $10m deposit for long-range missiles that could be adapted to carry chemical or biological weapons. Apparently the missiles were never delivered but North Korea kept the money.
Sabotage by Iraqi intelligence agents during the fall of Baghdad and a shortage of translators with intelligence clearance have slowed the search for Saddam's weapons. The Iraqi survey group has uncovered "more than 9A miles of documents" relating to weapons of mass destruction and most still have not been translated, Kay explained. A lack of translators also hampers some interrogations with Iraqi scientists.
Some of the best weapons sources appear to have been the casualties of war. The head of Saddam's nuclear enrichment programme was accidentally shot dead at a US military checkpoint last spring, Kay said.
Bremer blamed Syria for acting as a conduit for foreign terrorists, mostly Al-Qaeda, to attack allied forces: "We've got rat lines running from Sudan and Yemen through Damascus and across the Syrian border into Iraq. It is pretty hard to imagine that Syrian intelligence doesn't know this is going on."
Closing the Iraq-Syria border is proving difficult, even though America has deployed more troops and unmanned aerial vehicles. "We're sitting down pretty hard on the Syrian border," Bremer said, adding that foreign fighters still slipped across the desert frontier. "We will have open borders for a long time. It is just a fact."
Bremer said that his personal goal was to transfer authority to an elected sovereign government by the end of 2004.
Meanwhile, terrorist attacks are expected to continue. US intelligence believes that last month's bombing of the Red Cross headquarters was unintentional and that the actual target was an Iraqi police station some 100 yards down the road.
(C) Times Newspapers Ltd, 2003
if they have refused to cooperate all this time - and their existence itself is a threat, why hasn't the CIA transferred them to the prison where KSM and Zubayda are being held - hopefully never to be seen from again (I doubt they will ever be tried). Basically, if they have no value to us being alive - and in fact because they are alive, that alone is a problem for us - then why are they still breathing?
Yes, these are possible. How-ever, the two anwsers I gave were based on the << stipulated Assumption of a connexion between the 2001 anthrax letters and some of the chemical mailings >>. I do not know if this Assumption is true or false but I was interested in the consequences if the Assumption did turn out to be true.
IOW, if the chemical mailings were sent by the same people who sent the anthrax letters, what would that tell us about the 2001 anthrax?
I do not think that your anwsers are consistent with that Assumption.
Here is why: The Aztlan Letter was written **AFTER** the Anthrax Letters were published. Look in the Wayback Machine. Aztlan did not put the letter on the web until after the Anthrax Letters had been published. The Anthrax Letters were used as modells by Aztlan in writing their << letter >>. I do not see a reason to believe that the letter is real.
If you can find evidence that Aztlan announced their << July >> incident prior to the 2001 anthrax attack, or that Aztlan posted the image of their letter before the 2001 Anthrax Letters had been published, then I am wrong. I do not think you will find that evidence.
That's a good Quote of the Week.
<< The letter was addressed to a woman in Hawaii. The postal inspector called the United States Postal Service in Hawaii and was told the woman had received letters containing similarly suspicious material in the past. >>
Hm. There were other envelopes containing powder mailed to this woman in Hawaii. Have you seen any other newspaper stories mentioning an envelope with powder having been sent to Hawaii?
............letters/ssssss.........the past.......????????????
.......past letters......How many?......Dates?.......Source?.......Dates?........How many?........Source?
Uh,..........exactly,....who is this woman's background?
Hmmmmmm......what is her (family) employment history....?
?same name confusion?
Did she 'work' for Saddam?
"Compare the Aztlan Letter and the Anthrax Letters. Similar use of capitals, some letter formation similarities."
I believe the comparison was with the Ricin Letter rather that the Anthrax Letters.
Too bad the photo of the Aztan Letter was taken at an angle, making direct comparison somewhat difficult - however, those backward slanted "I"'s are interesting.
Suspicious Powder Mailed in East-End
Josh Pringle
Monday, September 20, 2004
Ottawa Police don't suspect the substance was dangerous, but Emergency crews were kept busy Monday by a letter containing white powder.
A letter containing the powder and a picture of Osama bin Laden was delivered to an east-end housing complex.
Police said the envelope also contained a letter saying “don't touch the powder.''
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