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Ahead, Call Us Cowboys: A visit to the Alaska-Canada border brings home the differences.
The Wall Street Journal Opinion Journal ^ | July 19, 2004 | Andrew Kleinfeld and Judith Kleinfeld

Posted on 07/18/2004 9:20:54 PM PDT by quidnunc

Everywhere, Americans are called "cowboys." On foreign tongues, the reference to America's Western rural laborers is an insult. Cowboys, we are told, plundered the earth, arrogantly rode roughshod over neighbors, and were addicted to mindless violence. So some of us hang our heads in shame. We shouldn't. The cowboy is in fact our Homeric hero, an archetype that sticks because there's truth in it.

Cowboys were of course plainsmen — Midwesterners operating from Texas to Kansas to the Dakotas. But their ideas and ideals spread across the continent to our Mountain West as well, even as far as the Alaskan West.

A few years ago, a Canadian anthropologist explained to us how different her countrymen are from Americans. She had a perfect comparison to illustrate this. She suggested that we go to the extreme western edge of Canada and have a look at two small towns named Stewart and Hyder. Stewart is situated in British Columbia, Hyder at the southeastern tip of Alaska. Though just two miles apart, these towns are very different in their "habits of the heart." If we visited them, our anthropologist friend implied, we would immediately understand the superiority of Canadian culture.

We decided to take up her challenge.

First we called up the respective town authorities. Hyder, the American town, turned out to have no town authorities — and, technically, no town. The Hyderites chose not to incorporate as a municipality, creating instead a community association — a private nonprofit corporation. Stewart, the Canadian town, is a real municipality with a traditional government.

When we phoned Stewart, the government agent refused to answer any questions until they were submitted in writing. The Hyder community association representative said, sure, she'd tell us anything we wanted to know, right now, on the phone. But to make it a fair comparison, we faxed written questions to both parties, and got written answers back.

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TOPICS: Canada; Culture/Society; Editorial; Extended News; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: canada; cowboys; freedom; friends; frontier
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To: quidnunc
Great article "quidnunc".

Mr. Kleinfeld is a judge on the Ninth U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals.

I could certainly entertain Judge Kleinfeld on the SCOTUS.

21 posted on 07/18/2004 10:23:02 PM PDT by elbucko
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To: goldstategop
In America, rugged individuals discovered and tamed the frontier through their own initiative. In Canada, the government imposed law and order on the frontier through the Royal Mounties and then brought people to settle the land.

Well said. The two methods of "settling the West" would explain the difference in cultures.

22 posted on 07/18/2004 10:26:48 PM PDT by elbucko
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To: tubebender
Canadians have always feared disorder. The British North America Act of 1867 open with the words, For the good government and order of Canada... The U.S Constitution opens with the words, We The People Of The United States... All of which enscapulates a difference between the Canadian and American views of government: in Canada, government is good and order is desirable; whereas in America the first object of attention is not government but the sovereign people. From such readings, it can be reasonably said Canada is a government that acquired a country while America is a country that reluctantly sought a government. We value freedom and are suspicious of the slightest constraints upon it, something looked upon in abhorrence by Canadians who can't imagine life without order and to whom the existence of rules provide a sense of national reassurance.
23 posted on 07/18/2004 10:31:30 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: quidnunc

So which style do you call good living?


24 posted on 07/18/2004 10:38:24 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (New Linux SUSE Pro 9.1 user here.)
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To: quidnunc

bookmark


25 posted on 07/18/2004 10:38:42 PM PDT by moehoward
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To: quidnunc
its unfortunate that our differences with cantada manifest themselves beyond the quaintness of two small towns to the tragic level of national conflict. mostly its gonna be unfortunate for them.
26 posted on 07/18/2004 10:41:32 PM PDT by eleven_eleven (canadia = land of nothing)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Stewart is attractive but it becomes confining to an American. Hyde is energetic but its sense of anarchism would repel a Canadian.


27 posted on 07/18/2004 10:43:11 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: eleven_eleven

What's telling its a refutation of the liberal notion that all cultures will become alike. In a way I am glad our two countries ARE different. Life would be boring if Canada were a clone of America. We need the contrast to remind us why we are who we are.


28 posted on 07/18/2004 10:46:27 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: familyop

Cowboy hats are practical. They keep the rain from going down the back of your neck. A baseball hat won't do that. With a good 4-inch brim you can spend all day outside and not get a burn on your ears or neck. You can fill your hat with water from a stream and drink it yourself, or give it to your dog or your horse. You can lean into the wind with a cowboy hat and keep the dust out of your eyes. In the winter, one of these hats is surprisingly warm. That's why people use them.


29 posted on 07/18/2004 10:47:25 PM PDT by henderson field
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To: the_Watchman
My wife and I were in Canada on vacation this weekend. I didn't think anything about it

Canada less most of the people is pretty nice. My wife and I went to Arizona a few times, we both thought the place looked like a few dozen 20 mega-ton atomic bombs went off. No kidding.....

30 posted on 07/18/2004 10:47:53 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf ( failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: goldstategop
Canadians prefer order.

Canadians are nothing more than 30-somethings still crashing at their parent's house. When someone else is picking up the tab, it frees one up to pursue more esoteric activities, like hanging around the beach all day.

Specifically, Canadians get to devote their budget towards social programs because we cover their ass on security. Even better, we provide a giant market for their goods/services. All in all, not a bad deal for the Canadians.

Who would you rather be, the draft horse or the rider? Problem is, while we may be the workers, we still can spit out the bit and run around the field. They may be getting a free ride, but they're stuck in that saddle and can't get out.

31 posted on 07/18/2004 10:48:45 PM PDT by Snerfling
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To: Snerfling

The northEast US is more towards the Canadian style.


32 posted on 07/18/2004 10:53:18 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (New Linux SUSE Pro 9.1 user here.)
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To: Snerfling

Canada is a conservative society. Why change if you don't have to? Americans are concerned with excellence and doing things better. Canadians are content with mediocrity and prize the value of stability.


33 posted on 07/18/2004 10:53:32 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Richard Kimball

ahhh...you too? Landry was a prince among men. It was never the same again.


34 posted on 07/18/2004 11:02:16 PM PDT by daybreakcoming
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To: daybreakcoming
...Landry was a prince among men. It was never the same again.

Dittos...and that's something coming from a Noll era Steeler fan living...well as much as one can...in Da 'Burgh.

prisoner6

35 posted on 07/18/2004 11:21:00 PM PDT by prisoner6 (Right Wing Nuts hold the country together as the loose screws of the left fall out!)
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To: quidnunc

As the grandson of a Wyoming cowboy, the article explains quite a lot to me, particularly about my own Wyoming-born father.

Of my grandfather's two sons, my father followed in his footsteps, settling in Southern California and becoming a home builder (before it became big corporations).

The other son chose career military, followed by government work. In turn his eldest son became a Canadian citizen, after running away from the draft--his symbolic rebellion.

All have great love of the west (even the socialist canadian bum-knucklehead artist).

I am self-employed, making less money than during my corporate servitude, but more happy.


36 posted on 07/19/2004 12:03:15 AM PDT by truth_seeker
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To: ASOC

"...there was a reason I done come to live in Alaska..."

Know the feeling: http://hstrial-rchambers.homestead.com


37 posted on 07/19/2004 12:46:12 AM PDT by Ursus arctos horribilis ("It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees!" Emiliano Zapata 1879-1919)
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To: quidnunc
Save a horse, ride a Cowboy!

(song title)

;)

38 posted on 07/19/2004 1:06:42 AM PDT by Sweet_Sunflower29 (May God Continue to Bless The United States of America!)
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To: quidnunc

BTTT


39 posted on 07/19/2004 1:09:07 AM PDT by Fiddlstix (This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: quidnunc
They can't even get this right. The term "cowboys" originated in the Southwest where many outlaws gravitated due to the Texas Rangers kicking them out. It's believed that the term came into existence when the Clantons, McLoureys (sp), and co. used to rustle cattle from across the Mexican border. Before that, legitimate cattlmen were call drovers, cattlemen, and cow hands. The Earp and Tombstone saga brought the term "cowboy" to national prominence, although at the time, it was a derogatory name.

Two prominent books on the Tombstone legend repeat the same negative connotation of "cowboy" at that time.

40 posted on 07/19/2004 1:15:42 AM PDT by A Navy Vet (Veterans for Constitutional Restoration - www.VetsCoR.org)
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