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To: Katy Deacon
The sad truth is that Kerry hasn't told any lies about his Vietnam experiences that I've heard.

That doesn't mean that "We" were bad and "They" were good. It's simply that some in the U.S. Military behaved in illegal, immoral, disgusting, etc. ways.

To deny that is absurd.

Some went too far in their determination to win at any cost. I don't hate those that did - but I can't say it's excusable either. It was a very long and miserable war.

If you don't believe Kerry (or me) - (which I can understand) simply do a little serious research of the Press reports of the day. There's lots and lots of pictures of this stuff (which weren't easy to fake back then).

Would anyone deny that the use of .50 cal's for perimeter defense was pretty standard?

66 posted on 07/18/2004 8:09:44 PM PDT by wasnova
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The most famous Sniper kill of the war was made by Gunnery Sergeant Carlos Hathcock from Hill 555 (just west of DaNang) with a scoped .50 cal. It's famous because of the distance - which I think was over 2300 yards.

And when Kerry says that the use of .50 cal's against personnel is prohibited by the Geneva Conventions he is correct.

73 posted on 07/18/2004 8:24:38 PM PDT by wasnova
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To: wasnova
The sad truth is that Kerry hasn't told any lies about his Vietnam experiences that I've heard.

Maybe he hasn't.

In that case, he's a self-confessed war criminal.

100 posted on 07/19/2004 6:07:17 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (...and Freedom tastes of Reality)
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To: wasnova; Katy Deacon; redrock; Chieftain; Squantos; 68-69TonkinGulfYatchClub
"The sad truth is that Kerry hasn't told any lies about his Vietnam experiences that I've heard."

Then you need to change batteries in your hearing aid.

This forum has exposed numerous lies he has told about his 'Nam experiences.

"It's simply that some in the U.S. Military behaved in illegal, immoral, disgusting, etc. ways.

To deny that is absurd."

Killing people has always been a disgusting business, but it has to be done in warfare.
Don't judge any of these warriors until you've walked a mile in their shoes across the paddys and hills of Viet Nam.

When were you there?

105 posted on 07/19/2004 7:29:46 AM PDT by TexasCowboy (COB1)
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To: wasnova; TexasCowboy

Kerry, by his own account, violated the UCMJ, the Geneva Conventions and the U.S. Code while serving as a Navy officer, and he further stands in violation of Article three, Section three of the U.S. Constitution.

Upon entering the Navy in 1966, John Kerry signed a six-year contract (plus a six-month extension during wartime) and an Officer Candidate contract for five years of active duty and active Naval Reserve. This indicates that Kerry was clearly a commissioned officer at the time of his 1970 meeting with NVA Communists in Paris -- in direct violation of the UCMJ's Article 104 part 904, and U.S. Code 18 U.S.C. 953. That meeting, and Kerry's subsequent coddling of Communists while leading mass protests against our military in the year that followed, also place him in direct violation of our Constitution's Article three, Section three, which defines treason as "giving aid and comfort" to the enemy in time of warfare. (As General Vo Nguyen Giap is his witness....)

Thus, we refer our readers to the Constitution's Fourteenth Amendment, Section 3, which states, "No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President ... having previously taken an oath ... to support the Constitution of the United States, [who has] engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof."

It is for this reason -- for his record of giving aid and comfort to the enemy while a member of the U.S. Armed Forces in violation of his oath -- that we insist John Kerry resign his seat in the U.S. Senate. He has dishonored his family, dishonored his state and dishonored our nation. He is not fit for public office at any level of government, much less, the highest office in the land. John Kerry should resign


109 posted on 07/19/2004 8:06:11 AM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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To: wasnova

Please click on "Winter Soldier" at the top of the page...Then you can know what we know....about John "Hanoi" Kerry.


115 posted on 07/19/2004 9:56:57 AM PDT by MEG33 (John Kerry has been AWOL for two decades on issues of National Security)
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