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To: G.Mason

I see that this is a site with an intelligent conservative viewpoint. I hope you don't mind debating me, I'm neither Republican or Democrat-I choose from both parties, based on the abilities they bring to the office.

One thing you've said troubles me.

"Changed the tone and restored honor and dignity"?

No. There has been no effort to heal the deep divisions that threaten to tear our country apart.

The Bush administration attacks it's critics with little to no regard for the truth. (Kerry didn't try to "gut our intelligence" when he suggested we use it's surplus. Using the vote against funding for the war would have been more convincing as a vote against giving our troops body armor would have been more convincing had Bush not also done the same thing. He voted against a similiar plan that would have paid for itself through less upper class tax cuts)

More troubling has been the way the war against Iraq was sold to the world.

There was a strong humanitarian case to be made, as well as prosecuting an act of war (the assassination attempt). We had every reason to believe he might be hiding weapons.

There was no need to try to decieve the public, "honorable lies" be damned.

A CIA analysis indicated Saddam was likely to only use WMDs/give WMDs to Al Quada as a response to invasion and was censored, the opposite of what the administration claimed.

Ties between Saddam and 9/11 were hinted at, despite no evidece to support such a conclusion.

It made us look like we had something to hide, and gave Germany and France's leaders good press.

But worst of all, many Islamic moderates lost their credibility, as the fundamentalists were able to claim that it was proof that the Bush administration was leading a "crusade". (remember that to many, a crusade is a synonym for a Jihad.)

As a result of that,(and a poorly planned foreign policy attacked by such far left liberals as Sen Lugar, George Bush sr, and George Will) we lost much of the support we had after 9/11.

Only those who have a vested interest in reelecting the president have counted that as a triumph.

I hope you understand, for the rest of us, that's not good enough.


6 posted on 07/18/2004 8:03:50 AM PDT by Eye of the storm
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To: Eye of the storm

Awaiting a follow-up fax?


56 posted on 07/18/2004 11:10:13 AM PDT by Admin Moderator
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He did not lie, he was given information that was considered valid by Britain and most of the world...I suspect your motives..

Americans are not sheep..We don't all agree on everything or every person...Here we want what is best for the country..

Bush/Cheney 04, the very best.... in my opinion.


59 posted on 07/18/2004 11:16:00 AM PDT by MEG33 (John Kerry has been AWOL for two decades on issues of National Security)
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To: Eye of the storm
Hellllllooooooooooooooooooo...........Eye are you there?
I thought you wanted to debate?

2.5 hours later and you have yet to respond.

No Zot on your account.....Cat (VKs)got your tongue?

64 posted on 07/18/2004 11:40:52 AM PDT by scott0347 (Sir Scott. Knight Commander of the 0347th Lancer Brigade)
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Despite the efforts of our medical team, pronounced irreversibly zotted, 3:10 PM EDT.


66 posted on 07/18/2004 12:22:36 PM PDT by Admin Moderator
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I have GOT to make some Zot photospoofs...


67 posted on 07/18/2004 12:47:37 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows (Am Yisrael Chai!)
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I came late to this thread, and ready to correct all your mind numbed leftist tripe opinions, and give you the facts.........but I see that's already been done in spades.

If you're still out there, I hope you've now read the TRUTH, and that it has seeped into your crusted brain and washed out the garbage that fouled up this forum with that ridiculous post......

77 posted on 07/18/2004 3:18:57 PM PDT by ohioWfan (BUSH 2004 - Leadership, Integrity, Morality)
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Click to hear personal message!!
112 posted on 07/18/2004 6:21:27 PM PDT by Darksheare (Show compassion, club a baby troll today!)
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Good movie as I recall.
122 posted on 07/22/2004 9:15:03 AM PDT by Tarantulas
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