Posted on 07/16/2004 8:42:13 AM PDT by presidio9
KANSAS CITY, Mo. -- For most little boys, circumcision is a decision for the parents to make. But the Missouri Supreme Court may make that decision for one local boy because his parents don't agree.
Two-and-a-half-year-old Ethan Azar's mother does not want to have him circumcised.
"There's no medical society in the world that recommends it, including the American Academy of Pediatrics," said Camille Azar.
But Ethan's father was recently granted sole custody. He wants his son circumcised. While the boy's father and his attorney would not appear on camera, they did cite personal, social and health reasons for wanting the circumcision, KMBC's Kelly Eckerman reported.
Circumcision removes the layer of skin covering the penis. It is something more and more parents are opting not to do, Eckerman said. The medical community calls it a personal decision.
"Everyone has their bias. But we try to base recommendations on sound medical evidence and it just isn't there to say yes or no," Dr. Ken Wible said.
Lower courts refused to intervene, so the case is now going to the Missouri Supreme Court to see if Ethan's father should be able to go ahead with the circumcision.
"The fact the courts have ruled he can make medical decisions doesn't mean he can make a decision to have part of the healthy living flesh of the child cut off," said Dennis Owens, Camille Azar's attorney.
Doctors did tell KMBC that Ethan's age is a factor.
"At that age, a child is going to need anesthesia," Wible said.
Camille Azar said that the decision should be up to her son when he's older.
"I want Ethan to make the decision about his own body," Camille Azar said.
Eckerman said that religion plays a role in some families' decisions about circumcision, but that has not been an issue here. The battle over Ethan's circumcision comes in the middle of a custody battle. A decision from the state's high court is expected within two weeks.
I have to side with mom here. Dad should have thought about this when he was born. She may not have custody but it doesnt mean she doesn't love him and she is still his mother and should be able to voice concerns. Unless a medical problem I agree with waiting now until he is old enough to understand and decide for himself.
"I have heard oral sex discussed by over 100 women over the years, and all but one or two have said they didn't do uncircumcised men."
lol...yeah sure.
I'm a guy, and if women in your circle don't talk about oral sex to each other in your company, they must not be comfortable with you
I know plenty of uncut men who enjoy a life of care-free oral sodomy with women outside the bounds of traditional marriage, all of whom do not pay for the service, for the most part, and who claim that their multiple partners enjoy watching the guy come out of his little house.
You believe guys when they tell you how much they are getting?
So9
Well that's why some things need to be discussed very early in the relationship. Who wants to get dumped for that? Not me. Besides if the hope of getting some oral is why some get circumcised well that's sad.
when two grown ups make their son's circumcision or non circumcision a basis for a court battle ,,,,something is way wrong with them not the child. I feel for the kid.
I agree, it's not about the child, it's about two parents who aren't adult enough not to drag the child into their fight. This one fight is 2 1/2 years old and still going strong.
Isn't it interesting there's so much hoopla over circumcision and folks crying about letting the kid decide when he's an adult but there's never a peep over parents piercing their baby daughter's ears.
I dunno. It seems a pretty common complaint from a lot of guys I know that chicks from the South (especially the debutante type) don't like to give Monicas. They consider it 'icky.' The correlary of that is the same type of girls are also opposed to having guys perform a little canyon yodeling on them.
The major downside of a cut is loss of sensation.
I thought Female Genital Mutilation was illegal regardless. Oh, my mistake, they're talking about mutilating a little boy. Carry on.
Oh, no! Slick Willy has invaded FR!
The upside of that, is tremendous endurance.
So9
"but there's never a peep over parents piercing their baby daughter's ears."
just so you know I oppose that as well.
He's going to have a time find a doc--no doc with any sense would do this.
I think the most important lesson that can be gleaned from this thread is: Guys like to talk about their penises.
What ever happened to monogamy and staying with one person? What a double standard *LOL* What kind of girls do you want your sons going out with anyway?
For some reason a lot of my threads tend to do that...
yep
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