Posted on 07/12/2004 10:51:41 PM PDT by JohnHuang2
Border Patrol agents who executed highly popular roundups of illegal aliens in Southern California last month the first of their kind in recent memory say they've been told to stop such enforcement action, and the Bush administration official in charge of the immigration enforcement has refused to say if there would be additional sweeps in the future.
In an extraordinary radio interview Thursday on Los Angeles talk-radio station KFI, talk-show host John Kobylt grilled Under Secretary for Border and Transportation Security Asa Hutchinson about why the roundups had been ended. The official, a former congressman who works under Department of Homeland Security Secretary Tom Ridge, attempted to defend the Bush administration record on immigration enforcement, but was repeatedly pressured by Kobylt to justify the canceling of the sweeps.
In early June, the Temecula Border Patrol station formed a special Mobile Patrol Group that conducted a series of illegal-alien sweeps in Norco, Corona and Escondido, Calif. The12-man group made more than 450 arrests as a result of the roundups.
Ron Zermeno, shop steward for the National Border Patrol Council at the Temecula station was frustrated with the decision to stop the sweeps.
"We don't know which way to turn. For once we were doing our job, what the government pays us to do," he told the North County Times.
After the roundups occurred, Latino activists protested at Border Patrol stations demanding an end to the sweeps.
Late last month, Hutchinson told members of Congress the raids were executed without the approval of higher-ranking officials, according to the Times report. While the sweeps were not illegal, they violated policy and the chain of command, Hutchinson said at the time.
In the radio interview, which lasted 22 minutes without any commercial breaks, Kobylt repeatedly confronted Hutchinson about when sweeps of illegal aliens would begin again.
While Hutchinson did not directly confirm that the sweeps had been stopped, he repeatedly stressed that future operations would have to be "coordinated" with other agencies. He told Kobylt while the priority of the Border Patrol is stopping the flow of aliens at the border, he also supports "interior enforcement" of immigration laws.
"Those 12 guys in Temecula rounded up 400 people in three days," Kobylt said. "Why not let them do what they're doing? They don't need to coordinate with anybody.
"They were doing fine, and the American taxpayers here in Southern California were thrilled beyond belief."
While Hutchinson argued the priority should be placing personnel at the border, Kobylt countered that California has 2 million illegal aliens who he says are a drain on the taxpayers of the state.
"It's $5 billion in tax money going down the hole every year to support these people," he told Hutchinson. "Why aren't you doing your job? Why do we still have tens of thousands of illegal aliens piling over the border every year?"
Kobylt charged Hutchinson with not neglecting the task of interior enforcement, pointing out the California roundups were big news stories because such action had not been taken "for years."
"When are the [round ups] going to start up again?" Kobylt asked Hutchinson.
"I'm not going to announce that on the radio," responded the official, who appeared riled by Kobylt's direct and persistent questioning. "You can expect interior enforcement actions in the future."
Kobylt accused Hutchinson of bowing to political pressure from immigrant-rights groups. He slammed the official for not confirming that the roundups would continue.
Said Kobylt after one of Huthinson's responses: "That's gobbledy-gook."
The host continued to pound on the roundup issue, but did not get the "yes or no" answer he was looking for.
"Yes or no, are you going to restart the border sweeps?" Kobylt pressed.
Responded Hutchinson: "We're going to continue the enforcement operations. They'll be coordinated between the Border Patrol and the ICE [Immigration and Customs Enforcement] agents. And that's the commitment that we make."
The talk-show host also pressed Hutchinson on the lack of enforcement action against employers in Southern California who hire illegal aliens.
"We have never seen a single company executive indicted for employing illegal aliens in this state," Kobylt said, who told Hutchinson he was "tap dancing" around his pointed questions.
"We have an enormous illegal-alien problem here in Southern California, and we are getting zero help from the federal government," Kobylt said.
Rep. Tom Tancredo, R-Colo., a long-time advocate of tough immigration enforcement talked to Kobylt and co-host Ken Chiampou yesterday about the interview.
Kobylt encouraged Tancredo to read part of the interview on the floor of the House of Representatives.
"Well, that's an idea," Tancredo said. "I will talk about this on the House floor and I will try to figure out a way to interweave that."
Said Kobylt: "We don't want this Hutchinson thing to die.
"I don't care if [Hutchinson's] a nice guy or not. I don't care if he gives mouth-to-mouth to dying dogs. It doesn't matter to me. Is he going to do the job on something that is extremely important that three-quarters of the state wants enforced?"
Zermeno said the halt in sweeps stems from pressure from Latino-rights activists and others.
"It's a few activists that are screaming for us to stop doing our job, and they are the ones getting Hutchinson's ear. It's very frustrating," Zermeno told the Times.
The KFI talkers have urged listeners to contact Hutchinson's office about the issue. The following message appears on the show's website:
Trey Bohn is the director of Radio, Office of Media Affairs, for the White House, and he wants you to stop e-mailing Asa Hutchinson, undersecretary for the Department of Homeland Security. Trey wants you to use a generic e-mail address, where you letters may or may not be seen. If you get a chance, why not give Trey a call and remind him who pays his salary. Call Trey at (202) 456-3851. Joseph Farah, WND editor and host of radio program "WorldNetDaily RadioActive," will play the interview on his show today. The program runs from 3 p.m. to 6 p.m. Eastern.
Dane you are either a LIAR or an IDIOT. Pick one.
You don't know what you are talking about. John and Ken were all over Joe Baca yesterday, but you didn't hear it because you live 2500 miles from LA. So why don't you go fix your senator problem in POennsylvania and keep off the California threads.
Illegal Aliens' Unstoppable
Third World Crime Wave In US
By Frosty Wooldridge
2-1-4
Last summer, in Boulder, Colorado, eight illegal aliens raped eight American women. The aliens fled back to Mexico. One was caught. In a nearby city of Longmont, a used car dealer was driven out of business because he suffered so much theft from his lot that he bankrupted. An illegal alien killed a California cop, John Marsh, last year. Robberies and break-ins have become the norm in California. They've become the pattern in Florida, Georgia, North Carolina and dozens of other states. But the sobering realities concerning these crimes point to one fact--they are illegal aliens. They are importing themselves into this country with a vengeance. They are deadly, pernicious and organized. They represent the worst of what is common in the Third World.
In her recent scathing report, 'THE ILLEGAL ALIEN CRIME WAVE' by brilliant investigative reporter, Heather MacDonald, our country is being assaulted by a crime wave that grows steadily and viciously.
A full 95% of all outstanding warrants for homicide, which totaled 1,500 last year in Los Angeles, pointed to illegal aliens. Soberingly, two thirds of all fugitive felony warrants, totaling a horrifying 17,000, were for illegal aliens. To make matters worse, in 1995 a report showed that 60% of the 20,000-strong 18th Street gang in southern California was composed of illegal aliens. That gang collaborates with the Mexican Mafia on drug distribution schemes, extortion and drive-by assassinations. They commit assault and robberies every day of the week. A night of crime to them is like a day of work for American citizens.
How did it come about and why is it spreading? In 1979, Los Angeles Police Department Chief Daryl Gates enacted Special Order 40. Astoundingly, as if insanity took the front row seat in their minds, leaders of dozens of cities from San Francisco to Miami and New York City adopted this special order. This law prohibits police officers from arresting illegal aliens. In reality, it?s a carte blanche invitation for crime to grow in our country, putting citizens at risk for their lives.
"If I see a deportee from the Mara Salvatrucha prison in El Salvador crossing the street in LA, I can't touch him," said a Los Angeles police officer. "I can't arrest him for an immigration felony."
Boulder, Colorado practices the same 'sanctuary' policy for illegal aliens. The mayor of the city openly encourages illegal aliens by making sure the police chief does not arrest illegals. Some of Boulder's immigration lawyers were so bold as to offer publicly announced classes for illegal aliens on how to avoid arrest, detention and deportation by immigration agents. The result in that town shows a tripling of the illegal alien population as well as jobs taken away from citizens and the eight violent rapes.
Not far away in Denver last week, an illegal alien, Javier Cruz-Caballero, purposely ran down police officer, Robert Bryant, while the officer operated a radar gun in a school walk zone. Witnesses saw the Mexican national rev up his engine while taking dead-aim at the officer. Bryant flew 30 feet through the air while suffering a broken leg and head lacerations. He could have easily been killed.
At a greater level, New York's Mayor Bloomberg supports illegal alien crime by maintaining a 'sanctuary policy' in that city. Last year, four illegals raped and killed a New York jogger. That crime was one of thousands of crimes committed by illegal aliens who are protected from the law. But more horrific in impact of this loss of the rule-of-law, former Mayor Guiliana practiced Special Order 40. Several illegal aliens protected by the Order participated in 9/11. The death toll reached 2,800, but the impact on our nation reverberates today. Yet, Special Order 40 continues full force in protecting the estimated 10 million illegal aliens in our country.
However, thousands of them are killing, raping, robbing and driving illegally in our country. Over 400,000 deportees continue walking around free in our country. The ones that commit crimes and are caught make up a full 29% of our prison populations. They cost American taxpayers nearly $1 billion annually to feed, house and care for them in our prisons. And, yet, Special Order 40, continues as if it was a fig leaf for welcoming hardened alien criminals.
These examples of illegal immigrant crime depict a growing menace to our functioning society. While a sleepy American public watches idly and a Congress refuses to enforce our borders while mayors adopt the 'sanctuary policy', we citizens receive an average of 2,200 illegals every 24 hours, seven days a week, 365 days per year. Since the Amnesty policy was announced, the invasion intensifies with greater numbers.
Where does that leave you? If you're in California, you're planning on moving to Idaho or Montana because it's already too late. With over 3.5 million illegals, the crime wave is beyond stopping. If you're in Georgia, you're probably stewing under your breath, but you don't have a clue that it's going to get worse. In Chicago, they either take jobs or rob banks or set up drug, prostitution and theft rings. If you're in Florida, it is no longer an American city. Houston is just as bad. It grows worse in every city in America.
It's called THIRD WORLD MOMENTUM.
The key is to understand that in the Third World--corruption, crime, child prostitution, bashing in peoples' heads, torture and worse is the NORM. Why? Because the rule-of-law no longer applies. Today, in America, concerning illegal immigration, our public officials who were sworn to uphold the Constitution have abstained from their oaths of office. We're forced NOT to talk about it via being politically correct, yet we are the victims of our own silence. Because the American public still hasn't figured this crisis out or keeps thinking it will go away on its own.IT IS GOING TO GET WORSE and you or your loved ones will become victims given enough time. With Special Order 40 in your city, another 9/11 can't be far off!
Source: Heather MacDonald, City Journal, published by the Manhattan Institute, January 15, 2004, THE ILLEGAL ALIEN CRIME WAVE.
Huh and not a peep on FR, by the Baca flying monkeys on FR.
Asa Hutchinson - explosive Illegals interview http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1170037/posts
6 - "Another cave by W and his admin, keep doing this crap and the base will stay home."
EXPORT BUSH AND HIS ILLEGAL ALIEN IMPORTS!!!
37 - "Asa Hutchinson is a weenie from Arkansas."
Tyson Chicken - one of the giant government contractors, is from Arkansas. They are far bigger than Haliburton, and they use the illegals in their chicken processing plants and slaughterhouses.
Tyson has many military contracts (not for food, but doing all kinds of things including running bases, building water processing and sewage systems, and even military weapons systems)
I seriously like you thinking, but don't think there is a snowball's chance in San Diego County today (it was 104 degrees on my patio at 2pm today) of it happening.
I'm tired of my vote being taken for granted by my party and the illegal immmigration/financial refugees from mexico is rapidly becoming a deal breaker for me.
I seriously like you thinking, but don't think there is a snowball's chance in San Diego County today (it was 104 degrees on my patio at 2pm today) of it happening.
I'm tired of my vote being taken for granted by my party and the illegal immmigration/financial refugees from mexico is rapidly becoming a deal breaker for me.
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65 - "Bush's coziness with Fox is costing us all. Mexico need to liberalize it's land ownership and intellectual property laws, reform it's courts and allow collective bargining. The illegals are Mexico's safety valve. Mexico gets the poor out and they send money back. A pretty convient way to avoid public unrest"
Bingo - give the man a cigar !!!
82-"Is that honestly what you want?"
What's your address. We've got a lot of illegals here we can send to live in your home in Seattle. I know all the libs will love you for it.
Well said.
Dane is a self parody, a joke that only he doesn't get pitching a tent for Joe Baca. As he has discovered about everyone on here who is against illegal immigration, we are secretly friends of D-Joe Baca. I talked to my leader Senor Baca just a bit ago and he told me; "El Asa Hutchinson es mi perra, y el Dané es un stalker loco que está en amor con mí."
Yawn. You guys are pretty desperate when you call me a crazy stalker in spanish.
I'll call you a crazy stalker in love with D-Joe Baca in English if you need me to, Dane.
Whatever, doesn't bother me one bit. It is you guys who are silent about Joe Baca, the instigator of the stopping of the sweeps.
Just have another Taco with your next abortion, IDIOTS !
Congratulations! You have now made references to Joe Baca in 1,000 different posts this month! (Applause)
Thanks, but we've got our own border up here to worry about.
He's doing such useful work in his sophistry. Just look how beaten the issue is;
Because of Dane, D-Joe Baca will never be able to win with the FR vote.
138 - "Thanks, but we've got our own border up here to worry about."
Well, then, how about a trade. We trade you all our illegal mexicans for all your illegal canadians?
You really need to find out what you are talking about and imposing on the rest of us, from personal experience.
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