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To: evilC
Probably because I made it up :). The description "neo-con" has been so abused that it is pretty much worthless now. I needed a term for a conservative who supports Israel (as opposed to a conservative who does not worry about Israel). Of course, using "neo" to describe a movement that is more than 40 years old is a bit stupid as well.

Presuming you mean an accurate, non-offensive term, you can’t. Israel isn’t an issue sufficiently detatched from other issues, other than to those for whom the “controversy” relates to the faith of Israel’s residents. If you oppose foreign aid, that’s not an “Israel” issue. Oppose foreign wars, that’s not about Israel. Support the Egyptioan-Saudi alliance, that’s not about Israel, it’s pro Arab.

I agree you about neocon, it’s now morphed to mean a Jew “foolish” enough to support Republicans. Also not a term worth defining.

Since you bring up neocons, earlier in the thread I’ve alluded to Pat’s memos to Nixon regarding the infeasibility of integration given negros 15 point I-Q deficit. Of course I was accused of making it, but if you believe me (and it’s easy to verify), Pat wasn’t completely certain. Who did he suggest the administration look into the issue?

Irving Kristol. Go figure.

194 posted on 07/12/2004 6:49:38 PM PDT by SJackson (Be careful -- with quotations, you can damn anything, Andre Malraux)
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To: SJackson
...I've alluded to Pat?s memos to Nixon regarding the infeasibility of integration given negros 15 point I-Q deficit.

Geez, you're making it sound like Buchanan ghost wrote "The Bell Curve" (some 30 years after the Nixon admin).

I can't recall the author's names, but I'm sure you could google up the identities of the men who ushered that scientific study to academia.
196 posted on 07/12/2004 7:08:30 PM PDT by mr.pink
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To: SJackson

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Presuming you mean an accurate, non-offensive term, you can’t.
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"accurate, non-offensive term" ... OK there was just the /tiniest/ bit of mischief in my use of Zio-con. However, I do not see conservative as synonymous with "pro-Israel". I was trying to separate those conservatives for whom Israel is most important and those for whom other issues (e.g. taxes, guns, or abortion) are most important.

This will have to be my last word, it is time for me to go to bed; I have had enough of Pat, hyphenated-cons, and lost "moderate" voters, and I need my sleep.


202 posted on 07/12/2004 8:14:38 PM PDT by evilC (This space left intentionally blank)
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