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To: evilC
Have Jews ever voted for Republicans in any significant amounts? In any case I have to wonder what is wrong with taking the concerns of a group (blue-collar rural workers), who have supported the party, and make up about 30 percent of voters versus worrying about two percent of the voters who never really supported the party in the first place (not that the speech had anything in it to concern any rational Jew).

I was about to ask you what on earth Jews had to do with the speech, which had nothing to do with Jews.

Of course you answered my first question, you noted not that the speech had anything in it to concern any rational Jew

I admit to being puzzled as to the conflict you perceive between blue collar workers and Jews. Pat talks about Jews (or Zionists, or Likudniks, or Israel or whatever you want to call them) a lot, but not in an economic context which is often used, mostly in the context of Jewish control of our government.

Do you believe that?

176 posted on 07/12/2004 4:29:13 PM PDT by SJackson (Be careful -- with quotations, you can damn anything, Andre Malraux)
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To: SJackson

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I was about to ask you what on earth Jews had to do with the speech, which had nothing to do with Jews.
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That was my point. Your earlier comments (#141), seemed to imply that Buchanan cost Republicans the support of Jewish people. I doubted that there was any significant Jewish support to begin with.

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I admit to being puzzled as to the conflict you perceive between blue collar workers and Jews.
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I see no inherent conflict between Jews and blue-collar workers. My point was that you seemed to believe it was a bad idea to raise the concerns of these workers (who often support Republicans) at the same time as worrying ("...Buchanan himself, who Jews intensely dislike...") about a group the does not support the Republicans.

Regarding Israel, I believe that conservatives spend far too much political capital on supporting Israel, for which they get no thanks from Jewish Americans. I am a small government, non-interventionist type of conservative. I still like Ron Paul (he has fallen out of favor with most FReepers). I have no love for the Neo-Cons (my definition warfare/welfare state supporters). However, I see no "Jewish plot".

Zio-cons (conservatives, of any stripe who view support of Israel as important) are mostly Christian and there are probably as many prominent Catholic neo-cons as Jewish neo-cons.

Israel and Jewish interests barely register on my radar except when the "anti-Semite" charge is used to smack down conservatives (sadly that comes as much from the right as the left). I get tired of seeing good guys like Ron Paul get bashed because he questions our involvement in the Middle-East.

It says a lot about FreeRepublic and the "conservative" movement, that I am nervous that posting the above will get me put on the "kooks list". So again, for the record: there is no "Jewish plot", we do not live under ZOG (we may live under LOG - Leftist Occupied Government - though :>).


182 posted on 07/12/2004 5:46:41 PM PDT by evilC (This space left intentionally blank)
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