Posted on 07/12/2004 6:49:26 AM PDT by wmichgrad
From the Department of Education:
What is a Federal Pell Grant?
A Federal Pell Grant, unlike a loan, does not have to be repaid. Generally, Pell Grants are awarded only to undergraduate students who have not earned a bachelor's or professional degree. (A professional degree is usually earned after earning a bachelor's degree in a field such as medicine, law, or dentistry.) In some cases, you might receive a Pell Grant for attending a post-baccalaureate teacher certificate program.
Rush did seem to condone what she was doing. I'm just glad she is looking beyond it and has hope of changing.
A Pell grant is a grant, you don't have to pay that back.
Ok you got me there, but at least it is for self-improvement, unlike regular welfare. But with the education she gets, she will (hopefully) make more money, which will mean that the government will get more in taxes from her. So in the end, it is an investment.
The clearest way to present the concept of so called "wealth redistribution", is to ask the socialists/lib if they would EVER go into their neighbors house and steal money out of their wallet--and when they say NO, then come back with "then why do you want to send the government out to do it for you?" (same with their no-guns stance--they don't want to own or support "the right to bear arms" but have no problem with depending on someone else with a weapon to defend them.(police/military))
I heard the call. He handled it masterfully. What was he supposed to do, get in her face and call her a leach? No, this was classic evangelism, if I may dare say it. Find the common ground, a point of agreement, and work forward gently from there. A conservative is born. Like I said, masterful.
"But with the education she gets, she will (hopefully) make more money, which will mean that the government will get more in taxes from her. So in the end, it is an investment."
I agree. There's a big difference between a Pell Grant and monthly welfare checks. With an education, hopefully she'll be able to make more of a contribution to society.
Sounds like it was a great call. Kudos, Rush!
I had this same realization when I was 15 back on 9/11/01, listening to Hannity.
Gosh that "It's and investment" sounds an awful lot like that democrat slogan "Investing in America" which is a euphemism for BIG GOVERNMENT PROGRAMS. The kind of investing I like to do is with my own money---what the BIG GOVERNMENT boys ALLOW me to keep that is.
I have a similarly "confused" coworker. On almost every single issue we discuss, her instincts are conservative. Yet, when it comes down to who she votes for, she always votes Democrat. Why? Because Republicans are "intolerant, hateful, rich..." and all the other standard tripe spouted by the left.
Bears repeating. Some of these freepers think that you're not a conservative if you don't scream bloody murder every 5 minutes. Rush actually had a conversation with a human being, not a collection of political beliefs.
Great! You are wise beyond your years and an asset to our country! Keep up the good work!
Rush wanted not to alienate someone he was genuinely hoping to persuade. He was deflecting the common argument that Republicans want to take away her opportunities and keep her barefoot and pregnant.
Besides, if this girl doesn't accept a Pell Grant, somebody else is going to get it so why trash her for taking advantage of something that's available which she appears to be using for some good?
My mother is getting Veterans Administration assistance for her nursing home care. If it were not available, we'd have to put her in a less desirable facility (we've already had to move her once due to cost factors).
Now, one could trash us for using a government program to give our mother the help she needs and argue that the VA shouldn't be shelling out money for surviving spouses, etc. And they might be legitimate arguments in the hypothetical sense.
But if we didn't access what the government offers, it's not like the government isn't going to spend the money. And through various taxes paid out over decades, we can rationalize that we are only getting back what we've paid in (by force, no less).
By "condoning" the use of a Pell Grant, Rush is simply choosing to fight the bigger battle of winning this woman over to conservatism rather than bashing her for accessing an oppportunity that many others access. Once this battle is won, the woman is free to make up her own mind as to the legitimacy of accessing government handouts.
A pell grant is never paid back, but it's a great investment in that this woman will get a productive job and pay more in taxes than she ever recieved in Pell money.
In this sense, Rush is using some common sense. After all, how many here complaining about Rush condoning this would rather see Karina STAY on government assistance?
If there's going to be programs like this, it will be in the long run far better and less expensive to the taxpayers to get people off their collective butts and into the workforce.
IMHO
True. He handled is beautifully.
My mother is getting Veterans Administration assistance for her nursing home care.
I look at that as more of an "earned" benefit anyway.
It's not that she was clueless, it's just that it has never been presented to her in the proper way (thanks to MSM). A lot of people don't understand.
Are you really that clueless? You don't get the Liberal Mind yet?? Better call Rush , he will help you.
There are a lot of those around. How to get to them.....?
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