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Spielberg, Eastwood raise 'Flags' (Flags of Our Fathers: Heroes of Iwo Jima)
Hollywood Reporter ^
| 7/8/04
| Borys Kit and Chris Gardner
Posted on 07/08/2004 11:58:55 PM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: BurbankKarl
One of Klinton's biggest donors is making a killing off the military that his idol dispised and gutted. The spoils of this movie will be spent to help elect people who stand diametricly opposed to everything I stand for, and I might add, everything that same military fought and shed their blood for.
To: BurbankKarl
The winter of 1945 huh? LoL.
To: BlessingInDisguise
In all honesty, January of 1945 IS smack dab in the winter season, but I wonder if they will include what happened to the Marine who was in the same unit as the Flag Raisers. Remember? He was grabbed, dragged into a cave and slowly beaten to death with iron bars...
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posted on
07/09/2004 12:40:56 AM PDT
by
jonascord
(What is better than the wind at 6 O'Clock on the 600 yard line?)
To: jonascord
I have no interest in seeing any more WWII movies. At this point it's becoming so overdone that the genre is turning into a parody of itself.
To: BurbankKarl
The battle, which took place in the winter of 1945, was a turning point in the Pacific Theater. In one month, 22,000 Japanese and 26,000 Americans died, and one of the outcomes was one of World War II's most enduring images: a photograph of six soldiers raising an American flag on the flank of Mount Suribachi, the island's commanding high point.
The number of U.S killed is way off. It was more like 7500. While still a large number, it's not quite 26,000. Semper Fi.
SIC (Forward)
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posted on
07/09/2004 1:08:44 AM PDT
by
SICSEMPERTYRANNUS
("Our responses to terrorist acts should make the world gasp." - When Devils Walk the Earth)
To: BurbankKarl
An accurate portrayal of the battle of Iwo Jima will not be something a lot of people could sit through for two hours. It was almost a month of the most horrific killing the world has ever seen. Anyone who has read "Flags of Our Fathers" has got to be struck by the horror of what happened there.
There are the stories of young Marines, being surprised at night by the Japanese in the dark and stabbed to death with bayonets. Their buddies heard these young men scream out for their mommas as they died. I wept when I read the book.
The U.S. Navy ships offshore had so many dead and wounded Marines aboard, blood was running along the decks and pouring off the scuppers into the ocean. I knew a sailor who saw this.
This movie is going to be shown to Americans who can't even watch the video replays of September 11, 2001?
To: DoughtyOne; NoControllingLegalAuthority
Rent the real McCoy.......
Sands of Iwo Jima ( 1949 )
The film uses a combination of actual war footage and new footage (all in B & W) and was shot at Camp Pendleton.
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posted on
07/09/2004 3:25:44 AM PDT
by
Robert Drobot
(God, family, country. All else is meaningless.)
To: NoControllingLegalAuthority
Eastwood is a guy who I would trust to do a good job. I loved "Heartbreak Ridge." His "Gunny Highway" was a tremendous role, although I would love to see a sequel with Highway and "Major Payne" together!
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posted on
07/09/2004 5:29:41 AM PDT
by
LS
(CNN is the Amtrak of news.)
To: Robert Drobot
To: LS
Now that would be funny
Major Paine was classic
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posted on
07/09/2004 6:51:43 AM PDT
by
erinjohn
(“There was a guy in a headscarf with an AK47 standing there looking at me, so I shot him.”)
To: NoControllingLegalAuthority
Remember the reaction to Spielberg's "Saving Pvt. Ryan"? I would hope that this time he actually asks about such things as how to handle an M-1, or a carbine, or not to assign a bolt action to a southpaw, You could sit there all day and find things to knock. And perhaps, this time, he will try and cast no one over 19 years old. I would be interested in knowing how many boys lied about their ages to join the Marines? Remember what Elenore R. said about Marines? "Baby-faced killers!" If I were to cast the movie, I'd clean out the Sophomore and Junior classes of a local High School. Also, have a long sit down with the writers, and inform them what an 'effen everything is. They would use the "F" word as noun, pronoun, adjective, adverb, and extra syllable with every word, along with bulkhead, deck, pogiebait, '782 gear, piece, rifle, rear-rank field music...
Marines are different. Little things, like firing two rounds near a spiderhole and dropping an empty Garand clip on the coral so it rings, so that when the jap comes out of the hole, thinking your rifle is empty, you can shred him with six rounds... Taking a jap POW "back to the beach", two miles away, and returning 10 minutes later, alone... When the Navy doesn't steam out oil drums before filling them with drinking water and floating them ashore... Clean out a cave by first shooting a basic issue of ammo into the mouth to suppress fires until you can get a Zippo in close, to burn out the entrance so you can seal the cave with satchel or pole charges, And then repeat it on the next cave twenty feet away...
It's those little things that spoil it for me. Perhaps if they were to actually bear down on how bad it can get, and Iwo is about as bad at it ever was, maybe it would either shut the lefties up, or make them squeal so bad that the rest will realize how bad they are.
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posted on
07/09/2004 11:14:34 PM PDT
by
jonascord
(What is better than the wind at 6 O'Clock on the 600 yard line?)
To: SICSEMPERTYRANNUS
I may be one of the few people around who say this...but I would have preferred to nuke the island and use that as a demo model for Japan to observe. We would have killed the 22k Japanese soldiers anyway....and it would have been worth the effort.
To: DoughtyOne
Look up the writer, Paul Haggis, a 'progressive' if there ever was one. I'm sure he will give a honest portrayal of a US Marine...
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posted on
07/10/2004 8:07:36 AM PDT
by
jonascord
(What is better than the wind at 6 O'Clock on the 600 yard line?)
To: jonascord
Read "The Bloody Battle for Suribachi" Navy Press by Richard Wheeler. Wheeler was a rifleman in the platoon that carried the first flag up. He was hit before the patrol. His book is simple, straight forward and dramatic.
I worked NYPD in the early 70s. One of my supervisors was a 45 year old Sgt. who was on Iwo as a 18 year old rifleman. He knew my uncle, also USMC in WW2 and took me under his wing. His buddy was a Guadalcanal veteran. I loved these guys, both now gone.
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posted on
07/10/2004 8:17:53 AM PDT
by
wtc911
(moderate islam is the swamp where evil festers)
To: pepsionice
I may be one of the few people around who say this...but I would have preferred to nuke the island and use that as a demo model for Japan to observe. We would have killed the 22k Japanese soldiers anyway....and it would have been worth the effort.....
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Number one, we didn't have a working bomb in February 1945. Number two, it took two mainland drops to get the Japs to quit, vaporizing Iwo would have had no effect and cost us a forward base.
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posted on
07/10/2004 8:20:17 AM PDT
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wtc911
(moderate islam is the swamp where evil festers)
To: pepsionice
A. In January, 1945, the first bomb wasn't ready yet.
B. We needed the island as an alternate for B-29s that had been damaged, although it wasn't big enough for the runways and taxiways we built on Saipan and Tinian. A fully loaded B-29 needed nearly 10,000 ft. of runway. Iwo also did not have a harbor to supply the logistics of a bomber campaign.
C. It was close enough to provide plenty of loiter time for fighter support. Turning it into a radioactive cinder seems like an idea whose time is not yet.
D. Buried as deeply as they were, I would bet that at least half would not have been so much as rattled...
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posted on
07/10/2004 8:26:13 AM PDT
by
jonascord
(What is better than the wind at 6 O'Clock on the 600 yard line?)
To: BurbankKarl
26,000 Americans died? I don't think so. The Japanese dead is accurate I think all but 11.
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posted on
07/10/2004 8:57:03 AM PDT
by
xone
To: BlessingInDisguise
February is winter. Spring starts in March, even in 1945.
a photograph of six soldiers raising an American flag Five Marines and a sailor. No soldiers.
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