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Milosevic forced to accept defence counsel (RAILROADING BEGINS)
guardian.co.uk ^ | Wednesday July 7, 2004 | Ian Black

Posted on 07/06/2004 8:30:16 PM PDT by Destro

Milosevic forced to accept defence counsel

Ian Black in Brussels

Wednesday July 7, 2004

The Guardian

Slobodan Milosevic is fit to continue standing trial but may not be well enough to represent himself, the war crimes tribunal in The Hague ruled yesterday. The three judges made it clear that the former Serb president may be forced accept a defence counsel, because the burden of doing it himself was damaging his heath, and that the trial was not, contrary to speculation, about to collapse.

Mr Milosevic, 62, suffers from recurrent and chronic high blood pressure and heart problems.

Judge Patrick Robinson suspended the hearing on Monday, when Mr Milosevic was due to begin his defence, on being told that he was at risk of a heart attack or a stroke and urgently needed rest.

"It is in the interests of the accused and the broader interests of justice that this trial be conducted and concluded within a reasonable period of time," the judges wrote.

"There is no evidence that the accused is not fit to stand trial at all, but there is evidence that ... [his health] is such that he may not be fit to continue to represent himself, and that his continuing to represent himself could adversely affect the fair and expeditious conduct of the trial."

They ordered that the court registrar identify counsel to represent Mr Milosevic. His agreement is not required.

"It may be necessary to assign counsel to the accused, and/or adopt other measures to ensure a fair and expeditious conduct of the trial," they wrote.


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KEYWORDS: balkans; campaignfinance; foughtterror; milosevic; muslimterrorists
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To: Joe Hadenuf

It shocks me that I have to explain that on an conservative website to so called conservatives.


21 posted on 07/06/2004 9:45:39 PM PDT by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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To: Destro

They seem to have disappeared....Nice KO.


22 posted on 07/06/2004 9:49:27 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: Destro

With me "the enemy of my enemy (for now) is my friend."

Slobo is, as you have said, giving the finger to the UN and it's kangaroo court society.

He also was giving the "grim reaper treatment" to islamists in his own HOMELAND.

In both cases, he has proven to be the enemy of our nation's enemies... radical islamists and UN would-be overlords.


23 posted on 07/06/2004 11:56:49 PM PDT by Robert_Paulson2 (the madridification of our election is now officially underway.)
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To: Robert_Paulson2
Saddam Hussein killed more Muslims than Slobo, and he's destroyed far fewer churches (Slobo's minions racked up 300+ Catholic churches during their various campaigns.)

Is he to be lauded for his criminal efforts as well?

Any suppport for Slobo demonstrates ignorance, whether it be of what transpired during his misrule, or of the foundation and legitimacy of the ICTY. Slobo agreed to send his fellow Serbs indicted for war crimes to the Hague during the Dayton negotiations - his 'illegitimacy' stance only came about when he found himself in front of the court, and holds about as much water as any of his other idiot ramblings.

24 posted on 07/07/2004 7:02:21 AM PDT by Hoplite
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To: Destro
newsflash!

Milosevic is a murder, so I guess you think that Saddam is going to get "railroaded" as well?

25 posted on 07/07/2004 7:05:56 AM PDT by stuck_in_new_orleans
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To: Destro
The Nuremberg Trails were a travesty of justice.

cough*idiot*cough

26 posted on 07/07/2004 7:07:15 AM PDT by stuck_in_new_orleans
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To: stuck_in_new_orleans
Saddam is in an Iraq court - not my concern. Slobo is in front of a UN court - a travesty - and is my concern. The UN court has no legal authority other than might makes right to issue verdicts of guilty or innocence.

As for Nuremburg - cough*idiotcan'tread*cough

"The war crimes trials were a reversion to the ancient practice of the savage extermination of a defeated enemy and particularly of its leaders. The precedent set by these trials will continue to plague their authors."

Admiral Husband E. Kimmel, U.S.N. Thompson, and Strutz ed., p. 42.

27 posted on 07/07/2004 7:21:18 AM PDT by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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To: stuck_in_new_orleans

Don't you understand? Husband Kimmel and Igor Sikorsky said the Nuremberg Trials were wrong. Can't you just read that and accept it?


28 posted on 07/07/2004 7:37:43 AM PDT by Petronski (Dual Johns? Twice the Crap)
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To: ninenot; sittnick; steve50; Hegemony Cricket; Willie Green; Wolfie; ex-snook; FITZ; arete; ...
Slobodan Milosevic is fit to continue standing trial but may not be well enough to represent himself, the war crimes tribunal in The Hague ruled yesterday.

The only chance for the Hague kangaroos is to set up a fake defence and silence Milosevic. I guess they are not above poisoning him if needed.

29 posted on 07/07/2004 7:43:54 AM PDT by A. Pole (Capt. Lionel Mandrake: "Condition Red, sir, yes, jolly good idea. That keeps the men on their toes.")
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To: A. Pole

When this all start, I predict that he die from heart attack before it is over, especially (as is seen now) it is obvious they can not convict. George Bush should now look with worry upon monster he and Clinton help to create...he is not that far away from being in the jaws of same monster.


30 posted on 07/07/2004 7:45:47 AM PDT by RussianConservative (Xristos: the Light of the World)
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To: stuck_in_new_orleans
Milosevic is a murder,

Are you saying Milosevic is going to be murdered?

31 posted on 07/07/2004 7:46:26 AM PDT by A. Pole (Capt. Lionel Mandrake: "Condition Red, sir, yes, jolly good idea. That keeps the men on their toes.")
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To: Destro; Howlin; Alouette; SJackson; stuck_in_new_orleans; Graybeard58
Destro, you're pulling your quotes (and presumably your guidance) from a Holocaust Revisionism website.

Of course they think the Nuremberg Trials were a travesty. LOL

32 posted on 07/07/2004 7:48:21 AM PDT by Petronski (Dual Johns? Twice the Crap)
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To: RussianConservative
When this all start, I predict that he die from heart attack before it is over, especially (as is seen now) it is obvious they can not convict.

Kangaroo judges in Hague must be looking around their shoulders too. Judge May did not perform well enough and now he is history. This morbid circus starts to resemble Moscow show trials of 1930s.

33 posted on 07/07/2004 7:49:48 AM PDT by A. Pole (Capt. Lionel Mandrake: "Condition Red, sir, yes, jolly good idea. That keeps the men on their toes.")
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To: RussianConservative
George Bush should now look with worry upon monster he and Clinton help to create...he is not that far away from being in the jaws of same monster.

First of all, Bush has opposed the International War Crimes Tribunal, and second, just let the UN try and get their mitts on a United States president, sitting or former.

34 posted on 07/07/2004 7:51:00 AM PDT by dirtboy (John Kerry - Hillary without the fat ankles and the FBI files...)
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To: Graybeard58
What do you think about the Nuremburg trials?

One difference is that in Nuremberg the sponsors of anti-Serb crimes were on trial. The key travesty was that among judges and prosecutors were murderers who had blood of tens of millions on their hands, but Stalin was a good guy then.

35 posted on 07/07/2004 7:54:10 AM PDT by A. Pole (Capt. Lionel Mandrake: "Condition Red, sir, yes, jolly good idea. That keeps the men on their toes.")
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To: Petronski

Thank you to them for placing all those quotes on one website. You don't doubt those words were spoken bt those men regarding the Nuremburg trials do you?


36 posted on 07/07/2004 8:03:13 AM PDT by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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To: Destro
Those quotes were pulled from their context by men trying to revise the history of the Holocaust, creating an obvious problem: what about those quotes has been twisted by the way in which they were quoted?

Not only would I disagree with the quotes listed, and the men who are quoted, but furthermore, I wonder how accurately the quotes reflect the speakers' actual sentiments.

And I'm surprised to find posted on FR stuff sourced from the Institute for Historical Review or the Committee for Open Debate on the Holocaust, the two preeminent nests of Holocaust denial on the internet. The IHR and CODOH people are scum-of-the-earth types not worthy of legitimate recognition.

37 posted on 07/07/2004 8:12:33 AM PDT by Petronski (Dual Johns? Twice the Crap)
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To: Destro
what about those quotes has been twisted by the way in which they were quoted?

A poor choice of words makes my clause very muddy. I'll try again:

...what aspect of those quotes might have been twisted by the way in which they were quoted?

38 posted on 07/07/2004 8:17:53 AM PDT by Petronski (Dual Johns? Twice the Crap)
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To: Petronski
http://www.pitt.edu/utimes/issues/29/101096/20.html

University Times

VOLUME 29 NUMBER 4 OCTOBER 10, 1996

Copyright (c) 1996, University of Pittsburgh

Others weren't so sure -- most famously, U.S. Sen. Robert Taft, who condemned the trials as "victors' justice" imposed by the winning side against the war's losers. Taft's remarks about Nuremberg didn't go over well with most of the U.S. public, and poisoned his chances for the presidency. But by taking such an unpopular stand so defiantly, Taft earned a chapter in John F. Kennedy's book "Profiles in Courage" and caused some Americans to have second thoughts about the fairness of Nuremberg.

39 posted on 07/07/2004 8:23:47 AM PDT by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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