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To: SkyRat
I read the report and it is troublesome. Combining that with the meddlesome aspects of Goals 2000 and it is even more troubling. Goal 4 of the report discusses how all students will be given mental health tests. Above and beyond my instinct that tells me that we will end up with far more kids on drugs to control their behavior, the results of these tests can follow one forever. It appears as though the testing will be mandatory and there is no telling what types of responses will raise flags.

What might seem like a ridiculous possibility is that say, a first grader that likes to play cowboys and indians could be considered potentially violent and possess a fascination with guns. What type of "treatment" will they provide for him? Then, it becomes part of his permanent health record and what would that do for potential future job opportunities, especially if the only notation is "potentially violent and a fascination with firearms"?

54 posted on 07/04/2004 8:37:46 PM PDT by L_Von_Mises
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To: L_Von_Mises

One addendum - An Executive order was signed April 29, 2002 to establish the commision, so the wheels are already in motion on this one.


55 posted on 07/04/2004 8:40:17 PM PDT by L_Von_Mises
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To: L_Von_Mises
Spot on.

I agree with you. Goal 4 of this "New Freedom" Project is the most troubling part for me, too.
I'm following this story for quite some time now. I thought it was overblown at first. I hope it won't get implanted.

Thanks for your info on the EO, didn't know that. And could you explain what you mean with "Goals 2000"? I'm afraid I don't know what your are referring to.

BTW, you've got a good Nickname. The Mises.org site is one of my favorites.
74 posted on 07/06/2004 7:32:00 AM PDT by SkyRat (If privacy wasn't of value, we wouldn't have doors on bathrooms.)
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Yep, it's idiotic. This money would be better off spent on people who have already proven they don't have the mental ability to survive in the real world--putting homeless in mental institutes.

I'm not sure what good this screening would do anyway. There is a LOT of latitude given to the mentally ill before they can be declared wards of the state. You have to practically murder someone before you can be declared insane.

A friend's mother went insane and put her family through hell, she would wreck things, try to sic the police on her daughter for imaginary offenses, wreck cars all the time even though she failed the driver's license test, and so on. The family begged courts to force her into a mental institute but the psychologists always evaluated her as "borderline insane". I don't remember the event that finally convinced the courts to declare her insane but it was pretty extreme.


109 posted on 07/10/2004 4:16:26 PM PDT by Nataku X (You hear all the time, "Be more like Jesus." But have you ever heard, "Be more like Muhammed"?)
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To: L_Von_Mises
Combining [this report] with the meddlesome aspects of Goals 2000...

In researching this issue (the claim that Bush has some strange mental health screening plan in the works), (after having been refered to this thread from another that seemed to be a duplicate of it, which is now pulled as it's reviewed), I came across your post here.

As far as I understand, Goals 2000 is no longer an active government program, as all its funding was yanked a few years ago. Source

Comments? I'd be interested to hear yours, as I've hear others talk about Goals 2000 spending and influence in the past. When I heard about it and did some reasearch into it, I found the article above from the Home School Legal Defense Association. It would appear to indicate Goals 2000 is no more, but again, I'd like to hear your thoughts on the matter.

Thanks,

112 posted on 08/26/2004 10:26:28 AM PDT by FourtySeven (47)
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