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FBI searching Islamic Center in Fairfax, VA

Posted on 07/01/2004 11:06:08 AM PDT by kcvl

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To: kcvl
If this had been done September 12, 2001, treasures might have been discovered nation-wide. I am convinced that 99% of muslims even here are sympathetic to the killers, and will aid them actively or with silence.

Unless every one of their homes is searched...

141 posted on 07/01/2004 2:37:14 PM PDT by Publius6961 (I don't do diplomacy either.)
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To: MarMema

'Worldwide Muslim population is estimated at over 1.5 billion, US Muslim population is estimated at 5 to 8 million
And it is growing quickly, they say. I just can never understand why it is growing quickly. Perhaps we need to figure that out and try to work against the growth?'

deny benefits of any kind to avowed or even suspected muslims.


142 posted on 07/01/2004 2:37:50 PM PDT by bitt (Kerry's PRESENT is enough for me not to vote for him, let alone his PAST)
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To: MarMema
I just can never understand why it is growing quickly.

In the US, Islam appeals to those who have had a bad experience with hypocrisy in their prior religious experience. It is something new that promises to accept all as equals and claims to satisfy (control) every facet of ones life under Shari'a law.

In prison, Islam is growing rapidly because it is a religion for the oppressed, for those who hate and resent 'The Man', and offers brotherhood and support.

In most of the world, Islam is growing because if ya choose any other religion or leave Islam, they cut your head off. That's powerful motivation for growth.

143 posted on 07/01/2004 2:41:43 PM PDT by Sender (Everyone thinks of changing the world, but no one thinks of changing himself. -Tolstoy)
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To: Puppage
May I suggest you duck?

ROTFLOL
144 posted on 07/01/2004 2:56:56 PM PDT by Bobby777
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To: donozark

Ping!


145 posted on 07/01/2004 2:57:48 PM PDT by Ben Hecks
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To: HipShot

"Their reaction is understandable only to the degree that they are ignorant."

I don't think that is the other posters concern, I think they just don't want to become "collateral damage" of the Mosque explosions.


146 posted on 07/01/2004 3:05:48 PM PDT by jocon307 (Nor forgive!)
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To: johnfkerrysucks

"They ought to come over to Dearborn Michigan and raid some places there too."

After 9/11 I said they should be going door-to-door in Northern New Jersey. And I still think they should have done it. But they did arrest a bunch of people.


147 posted on 07/01/2004 3:07:14 PM PDT by jocon307 (Nor forgive!)
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To: jocon307

Thank you for the clarification. I wouldn't want to be there either.


148 posted on 07/01/2004 3:13:15 PM PDT by HipShot (All of our ammunition should be dipped in pig fat)
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To: HipShot
There are those that still think of islam as having the same God as judaism and christianity. There are lots of people, (even some here), who are unaware of the true nature and history of Islam.

So? As far as Im concerned, Islam sucks. They need to convince me that they are benevolent. But their silence is deafening. The only history I know of is a pedophile who probabaly had epilepsy being elevated to "prophet" status 600 years after Christ died.

149 posted on 07/01/2004 4:02:26 PM PDT by cardinal4 (Its noteworthy that the two biggest shills for the left are Michael Moore and Al Franken..)
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To: kcvl
The Institute of Islamic and Arabic Sciences in America

Hows that for oxymoronic..?

150 posted on 07/01/2004 4:03:34 PM PDT by cardinal4 (Its noteworthy that the two biggest shills for the left are Michael Moore and Al Franken..)
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To: cardinal4
They can't convince you, or anyone else. That's the problem.

They can mix truth with lies and try, but since they are required by the koran to kill us if we don't submit, any words that they say are meaningless. Lying to infidels as encouraged.

Here is some info that may be helpful:

http://focusonjerusalem.com/islamandchristianity.html
151 posted on 07/01/2004 4:15:36 PM PDT by HipShot (All of our ammunition should be dipped in pig fat)
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To: xsmommy

The Same Home Depot where the sniper killed the FBI woman "Linda"??


152 posted on 07/01/2004 4:21:56 PM PDT by cgk (3000+ 9/11. Pearl, Fallujah, Berg, Jacobs, Scroggs, Johnson, Sun-il... Never forget. Never Again!)
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To: HipShot
I was not attacking you, I was just stating that I will no longer give them the benefit of the doubt. Islam needs to come front and center and decry the detractors in their midst. We cant do it for them. Watch for Ibrahim Hooper to issue statement saying muslims are being oppressed again.

In the 70s and 80s, the Catholics and the Protestants butchered eachother Northern Ireland. Everytime a bomb went of in a Loyalist neighborhood, the Catholics would scream bloody murder that this wasnt Catholicism. The same reaction occured when the "Prods" would blow up a Catholic area. Eventually, tired of the butchery, they came to terms. The point Im trying to make is, the Catholics and Protestants howled every time one of their own committed an act of terrorism. I see nothing like that from Islam.

153 posted on 07/01/2004 4:30:48 PM PDT by cardinal4 (Its noteworthy that the two biggest shills for the left are Michael Moore and Al Franken..)
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To: Squantos; Lion Den Dan; Jeff Head; pocat; Morgan's Raider; Fred Mertz

Call me paranoid if you want, but this evening we stopped at the local public library. There were two people, obviously muslims using one of the free internet access computers. He was dressed in robe, with hat, etc and she had on a full robe (burka?) with only a very narrow slit for her eyes (about 1/2 inch). I kept trying to wonder over behind them to see what was on the screen, but they were both hunched over it and were taking notes. I was wondering if they use the library as maybe their home interent is monitored.


154 posted on 07/01/2004 4:37:11 PM PDT by SLB ("We must lay before Him what is in us, not what ought to be in us." C. S. Lewis)
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To: cardinal4
Watch for Ibrahim Hooper to issue statement saying muslims are being oppressed again
Here you go, from the news article listed here

Lawyers for the Council on American-Islamic Relations observed the raid. The council's spokesman, Ibrahim Hooper, said, "We're concerned that this may be perceived in the Muslim community as a fishing expedition."

155 posted on 07/01/2004 4:38:41 PM PDT by cgk (3000+ 9/11. Pearl, Fallujah, Berg, Jacobs, Scroggs, Johnson, Sun-il, Maupin Never forget Never Again)
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To: cardinal4
I appreciate and understand your sentiment. Any rational person would expect a reaction like that from them.

I think that we are projecting our values on a group of people, expecting them to decry the extremism in their midst, when the reality is that it's not extremism, but mainstream, and at the very core of their belief system.
156 posted on 07/01/2004 4:40:20 PM PDT by HipShot (All of our ammunition should be dipped in pig fat)
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To: cgk

Talk about perception. He knew this was coming.


157 posted on 07/01/2004 4:42:16 PM PDT by HipShot (All of our ammunition should be dipped in pig fat)
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To: xsmommy

Wow. That is close to your house.


158 posted on 07/01/2004 4:53:45 PM PDT by patton (I wish we could all look at the evil of abortion with the pure, honest heart of a child.)
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To: cgk

Cripes! I was just being a smart-a** when I posted that about Hooper!


159 posted on 07/01/2004 4:54:26 PM PDT by cardinal4 (Its noteworthy that the two biggest shills for the left are Michael Moore and Al Franken..)
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To: cardinal4

How would you like to pick out some lottery numbers for me?


160 posted on 07/01/2004 4:57:29 PM PDT by HipShot (All of our ammunition should be dipped in pig fat)
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