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Florida Woman Dies After Swerving Car To Avoid Turtle
WFTV ^ | 6/30/04

Posted on 06/30/2004 9:11:55 AM PDT by 11th Earl of Mar

Florida Woman Dies After Swerving Car To Avoid Turtle

POSTED: 10:03 am EDT June 30, 2004

INDIANTOWN, Fla. -- A 20-year-old woman who veered her car to avoid a turtle flipped the vehicle several times and died Tuesday, Florida Highway Patrol officials said.

Rachel Marie Martin of Sebring was traveling southeast on State Road 710 between Indiantown and Okeechobee in western Martin County when she suddenly turned away from a turtle crossing the roadway, according to an FHP report. The car overturned and landed in the middle of the road.

A passenger, 19-year-old Julie Christine Evans of Tampa, was treated and released from a local hospital. Martin's 1999 Oldsmobile SUV was totaled.

Authorities said Martin was wearing her seat belt and that alcohol was not involved in the crash.


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To: Professional Engineer

*snicker*


81 posted on 06/30/2004 10:40:07 AM PDT by Darksheare (SAMWolf, Roger that, Will be heading around to head off the stragglers. Employing 'Disgrontificator')
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To: 11th Earl of Mar

Had to be an SUV.


82 posted on 06/30/2004 10:46:26 AM PDT by Huck (Be nice to chubby rodents. You know, woodchucks, guinea pigs, beavers, marmots, porcupines...)
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To: FreedomPoster; SteveH
Yeah, a Ford Explorer almost rolled in front of me the other day, simply trying to change lanes. The highway was going from four-to-three lanes, and a semi was trying to pull into the remaining lanes. The guy in the Explorer was driving too fast, and changing lanes too eradically, and he and the semi were about to try to occupy the same space (lane), which is another violation of the laws of physics that brings serious consequences. The Explorer saw the semi in time, but jerked the vehicle into the next lane a bit too abruptly. It started a side-to-side oscillation which looked like it would amplify into a rollover, but the driver (more by the grace of God than by his own driving skills) smoothed it out, and we all continued down the road without seeing another SUV-related accident.

Too many drivers on the road drive in an unsafe manner. Most of these are young 20-something males who weave in and out of traffic at speeds exceeding 80 miles an hour. They usually drive in pairs (two vehicles playing some stupid game of "tag"). Frankly, I'm all in favor of allowing these meatheads to kill themselves, and thereby eradicate themselves from the genepool, but they invarible take someone with them when they do.

83 posted on 06/30/2004 10:53:46 AM PDT by My2Cents ("Well.....there you go again.")
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To: lowbridge
But it could have been an endangered turtle.

It was endangered, until she swerved!

84 posted on 06/30/2004 10:54:48 AM PDT by RobRoy (You only "know" what you experience. Everything else is mere belief.)
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To: RobRoy
RobRoy said: "As a motorcycle rider, I learned long ago to override the reflex. "

Here's another tip. I was taught to always keep the motorcycle lined up with the wheel track of the vehicle in front of me. I was told that this was to avoid the center of the lane where oil drips can make the surface very slippery.

Ignoring this rule allowed me to learn a better justification.

I have never forgotten the day I was riding what turned out to be too close behind a driver towing a trailer at about seventy miles an hour. From between the wheels of the trailer emerged a four-by-four just short enough to allow the trailer to pass over without touching it. I was amazed that I was able to pass over it without being thrown. There were eleven broken spokes in the rear wheel.

85 posted on 06/30/2004 10:59:14 AM PDT by William Tell
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To: 11th Earl of Mar

Scratch 1 animal rights whacko! One less vote for the Dimocrats.


86 posted on 06/30/2004 11:03:30 AM PDT by Destructor
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To: No.6
No.6 said: "Every tire has a proper pressure under which it assumes its proper tire patch. "

The behavior of an improperly inflated tire might be especially important in the case of a car which has swerved and is skidding sideways. Too much flexibility in the tire can allow it to change shape and permit the vehicle to roll more easily.

87 posted on 06/30/2004 11:03:43 AM PDT by William Tell
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To: My2Cents
Most of these are young 20-something males who weave in and out of traffic at speeds exceeding 80 miles an hour.

Yes, I have seen that, but mostly with compact Japanese cars.

(Fortunately for those of us with the larger-mass Exploders and other SUVs ;-)

88 posted on 06/30/2004 11:04:07 AM PDT by SteveH
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To: RobRoy

Sounds like you need to slow down. I've been driving for 27 years and have never hit an animal. If you're hitting that many animals, it's only a matter of time until you hit a person.


89 posted on 06/30/2004 11:25:20 AM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: RobRoy
As a motorcycle rider, I learned long ago to override the reflex. I've hit two dogs, a puppy, a cat, one possum and countless squirrels.

Man, that's some trophy wall. On the up side, at least you know you've got yer bike sighted in pretty well...

90 posted on 06/30/2004 11:25:53 AM PDT by Ranxerox
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To: Izzy Dunne

I don't know.

Here in Texas it's not unusual to Red-Eared Sliders crossing the road from one body of water to another.

Last year I rescued one that was 11" long.


91 posted on 06/30/2004 11:28:39 AM PDT by chaosagent (It's not the fall that kills you. It's the sudden stop.)
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To: Izzy Dunne
Two bits says it wasn't a turtle, but a tortoise, or a terrapin.

Finally, credit where credit is due!

92 posted on 06/30/2004 11:44:04 AM PDT by laredo44 (Former University of Maryland Terrapin)
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To: Windsong

God didn't kill her.

Foolish driving did.


93 posted on 06/30/2004 11:51:45 AM PDT by 11th Earl of Mar
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To: RepublicansForDean
Wow, that's the first headline for an accident like this I've seen without "SUV" in bold type.

Which is unfortunate, because in this case, the fact that it was an SUV really is critical to the story. Normal cars don't flip over as easily as SUVs.

94 posted on 06/30/2004 11:55:38 AM PDT by xm177e2 (Stalinists, Maoists, Ba'athists, Pacifists: Why are they always on the same side?)
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To: SteveH

Yes, Honda Civics are the vehicle of choice.


95 posted on 06/30/2004 12:04:54 PM PDT by My2Cents ("Well.....there you go again.")
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To: SteveH

Don't SUV's also generally have rather high ground clearance?

How big was this 'turtle' I wonder? I drive a little sports car and when something is on the road I don't swerve to avoid it completely (unless I can safely), but I do try to make sure it goes *under* the car rather than under the tires. That worked with my neighbor's dog, which (thankfully) survived unharmed.

Of course there are times you can't do that, so I just grip the wheel and pray ... sort of like the time in High School I hit the deer with my old VW Beetle during a rain storm.

A line of deer came trotting out of the woods onto the highway, and I angled the car to go between two of them (as I was pumping on the brakes), but they just kept on running. The angle I took of course was incorrect as they kept moving and I ended up having Bambie destroy my front end and side door--it got whipped around because I clipped it in the neck area.


96 posted on 06/30/2004 12:07:40 PM PDT by Betis70
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To: Betis70
Don't SUV's also generally have rather high ground clearance?

Yes, if it is advertised to be off-road functional, I would imagine this would imply better clearance than an average passenger road vehicle.

To minimize side rollover possibility, more recent SUVs (a trend beginning in the last dozen years or so and continuing at least through to 2001) have significantly narrowed upper passenger compartments horizontally across the breadth of the vehicle.

Paradoxically, I would imagine that this results in decreased safety of the vehicle occupants due to more limited head and upper body clearance (unless there are upper side airbags).

Off-road specialty 4x4s tend to have roll bars or full roll cages in case the vehicle is tipped over while trying to overcome an obstacle.

97 posted on 06/30/2004 12:41:38 PM PDT by SteveH
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To: xm177e2

"Which is unfortunate, because in this case, the fact that it was an SUV really is critical to the story. Normal cars don't flip over as easily as SUVs."

It's unfortunate this woman passed away. However, if she didn't know how to drive an SUV, she should have stuck with a car.

People that understand the limits of an SUV and can control their reactions in emergency situations are safer than people driving cars when involved in accidents. It's the people that don't understand the differences that have earned SUV's a dangerous reputation.


98 posted on 06/30/2004 1:17:45 PM PDT by RepublicansForDean
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To: GovernmentShrinker

I've been driving 35 years and never hit a human. I came close in a crosswalk at a traffic light once, but it was on purpose.

On my bicycle I have been hit by two cars and came within literally two inches last night. At no time did I ever so much as stop my bike, however. The cars were rather badly scratched up and dented however.


99 posted on 06/30/2004 2:36:51 PM PDT by RobRoy (You only "know" what you experience. Everything else is mere belief.)
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To: Ranxerox

I didn't say that very well. The motorcycle helped me override the reflex, but I hit all the animals in my car. Well, I hit one squirrel with my bicycle. 8^>


100 posted on 06/30/2004 2:38:22 PM PDT by RobRoy (You only "know" what you experience. Everything else is mere belief.)
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