20 to 40 Tactical Nukes Already in The US?

www.WSBA910.com morning drive interview ^ | 6/30/04 | Me: 7.62 x 51mm

[7.62 x 51mm]

On the way into work at 6:20am, I was listening to local radio station, WBSA's (www.wsba910.com) Dennis Edwards, interview of Paul L. Williams, author of his new book, "Osama's Revenge: The Next 9-11", who said there are already 20-40 tactical (10 kiloton) nukes in the US, in major cities. He also said that in October 2001, George Tenet testified that he'd sent President Bush a memo detailing some of the information and the serial numbers of two (2) of the nukes.

Anyone else hear this? Really ruined my day, if true.

I'm in the York-Lancaster, PA area, and have seen numerous men in blue military field uniforms with NEST on the backs of their suits, over the past 4-5 weeks.

We have Three Mile Island (north) and Peach Bottom (southeast) nuclear reactors within 20 miles of my home and business, but otherwise this area is not a "target-rich" environment.

I did a Google search for that acronym and didn't find anything relating to Nuclear Emergency Search Team or anything close to it, after 8 pages. FR has a few articles in their search archives.

It's 7:53am as I write this. and the next interview with author Williams will be on at 8:10am. You can get it streamed over the Net. They also carry Rush and Hannity daily. Sorry I didn't get this on sooner, but I have 4 landscape crews to brief and get moving, plus the retail garden center staff to get started-up and moving by 7am.

If this book is even partially accurate, we have a major headache brewing.

[sam_paine]

Oppenheimer and his really really bright frenz all had a helluva time making one simple bomb work under very controlled conditions. Now imagine if they packaged one up, gave Richard Reid strict training on how to set it off, and then sent him on his way in a container ship/mexico-border-crossing semi......am I convinced al-Qaeda has enough brainiacs to pull one off, much less 40 without being detected and punked?

Inaword: no. JMHO.

[RightthinkinAmerican]

Right! And they're going to sit on them for 3 years, just risking being caught before they can use them?

[Tai_Chung]

It's no secret the US Government has been concerned about radiation devices as a weapon, but that is very different than 20-40 tactical (10 kiloton) nukes. I'm not convinced the terrorist have any nuclear bombs.

I am convinced that the terrorist read US media reports to learn of creative ways to harm America. Books like "Osama's Revenge: The Next 9-11" will only guarantee the next attack will be more spectacular and devastating than the last one.

[dufekin]

York and Lancaster are both target-rich, as is Harrisburg. The goal of terrorists is to terrorize; therefore, they may not hit "military" targets, but civilian population centers. Because they want to terrorize the entire population, they don't hit the largest cities all of the time. If they could do so, they'd break the backbone of our economy: farming, especially corn and soybean farmers whose product literally has fueled the people of this continent for a millennium.

But farmers are generally well-armed (although this may vary from state to state) and dispersed through vast swaths of the countryside. Look at the war zones in around the world, particularly in Africa. Who are the refugees? Rural farmers, unable to protect themselves from the murder, rape, and pillage of roving bands of thugs. Who suffers? Everyone, including city-dwellers, who no longer have a reliable source of food.

[Toespi]

If there were nukes in the US in October of 2001, they were certainly here on September 11, 2001. Why did they bother using airplanes?

[expatguy]

In the last month or so I have been hearing here in Southeast Asia that ~

"...something big is going to happen that will cancel the elections in the United States..."

What I found even more interesting is that this time around it is not solely a 'militant muslim' operation that has been being developed. The individuals who financed and worked on the project here were 3 Chinese, 2 Indonesians, 1 Arab and a Dutch passport holder who is now dead. - They met regularly at two hotels I am aware of - one in Medan and the other in Jakarta.

Three of the nukes moved through Southeast Asia over a year ago and were ultimately destined for the United States (origin was Vladivastok). They had a total of 6 Russians come in and 2 stayed on and did some "work" on the parts (I am not sure exactly what they were doing) - Their liason is an individual in the Embassy of the Russian Federation who happens to have a Filipina girl he sleeps with that also sleeps with someone I know.

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[Maigrey]

Besides pushing a book, he was on Linda Vester's show last week.

[7.62 x 51mm]

That's where I'm at. York, PA.

[PLMerite]

"I did a Google search for that acronym and didn't find anything relating to Nuclear Emergency Search Team or anything close to it, after 8 pages. FR has a few articles in their search archives."

NEST is Nuclear Emergency Search Team, or at least it was a few years ago. I've seen articles on them.

[familyofman]

Does the tinfoil come with the book, or do we need to supply our own? If the author knows how many nukes are here why can't he give their locations. Did he count them to know the number present in country?

More than likely it's the Amish out seeking revenge for all their buggies getting run down on the roads by the 'english'.

[Mr. Jeeves]

The first time I heard this theory, more than a decade ago, the nukes had supposedly been smuggled into the US by the Soviet Union and buried outside major cities, to be dug up, armed and detonated by Soviet agents when they were ordered to do so. After the Soviet Union fell, the exact location of the buried nukes became hazy, and some of them could have indeed been sold to terrorists. But it was also speculated that the fissile material was only good for a few years and that the weapons may now be useless in any event.

[Brilliant]

If they are doing that, then they are idiots. Taking a risk on being caught just so that they can wait for a convention? Ridiculous. Just detonating it would be a major victory for them. They can't even blow off a conventional bomb, though.

Mind you, I am not suggesting that we should not be worried about the terrorists getting the a-bomb. It' just the notion that they have got bombs here and are waiting for the right moment that I find ridiculous.

[twgiles]

The author is providing a valuable service: siphoning $ from crackpots so they can't spend it on sharp objects.

[JimRed]

By this time next year, what? 200?

Depends on who wins the election. Kerry, zero; Bush, hundreds more.

[The Mayor]

Very interesting!

alot of sleeping around going on.

[rintense]

Regardless of the expiration date, risk of getting caught, etc... remember, no one thought a terrorist would use a plane as a missle either.

Isn't it quite possible they are counting on us to NOT believe it is possible? After 9-11, I say anything is possible with a crazed terrorist.

[eno_]

Maybe they're waiting for a significant date/time in their religious cultish history?

Two things about that: 9/11 happened on 9/11 because that is when the assets could be put in place. There were delays. It might have happened sooner. No significance to the date.

The second thing is it took years to plan 9/11 and the Cole bombing, the latter of which was delayed for something like a year due to the right ships not being in the right place.

Not really possible to say one way or the other. You can't say "It would have happened already." And you can't count on numerology.

[eno_]

But it was also speculated that the fissile material was only good for a few years and that the weapons may now be useless in any event.

Only fancy nukes, like neutron bombs, need fancy maintenence. A uranium or plutonium fission bomb has a looong shelf-life.

[TBall]

"They can't even blow off a conventional bomb, though." No but the countries who back them can.

[Brilliant]

Yes, I thought of that. However, I still think it's unlikely. It's unlikely that they currently have any bombs, much less several, and even more unlikely that they are simply sitting in the US waiting for the signal.

Keep in mind that even Iran does not have the bomb at this point. Of course, I do not rule out the possibility that al Qaeda might be able to do something Iran cannot. However, I do look at the odds. I'm more worried about Iran giving the bomb to al Qaeda than I am that al Qaeda will get the bomb on its own.