Bill Buckley, you and I know the war was a mistake

The Hill ^ | June 28, 04 | Josh Marshall

[BykrBayb]

I'm not surprised. It won't be long before our beloved Federal government mandates when we can go to the bathroom.

To some extent, they already do. You can't go to the bathroom when you're standing on the White House steps, and illegal aliens can't marry citizens for the sole purpose of circumventing immigration laws.

[Hot Tabasco]

I'm posting this because those freepers who call me some kind of traitor for opposing the invasion of Iraq are now going to have to add Buckley (along with Tom Clancy and a number of military brass) to the list.

Brilliant!!!!

consider Buckley added to the same shithead list you are presently on! At least your brass laden, pseudo intellectual comrades aren't from the low-life flyovers.... How's it smell over there anyway? Is there any difference between a writer's butt and a brass butt?

[BykrBayb]

(I'm still voting Bush, but in spite of , not because of , his Iraq policy)

If you're voting for Bush, why are you campaigning for Hussein?

[Chgogal]

Dear child,

I do NOT lie/spin. The USS Abraham Lincoln was at sea for one year without an accident. They were celebrating that amazing feat and their successful mission with the banner "Mission Accomplished". Insulting me does not hide the fact that you are unaware of the issues. Granted you may feel that way about the "Mission Accomplished" banner, but feelings do not facts make.

Calling me names doesn't impress me. But your ignorance does and I am afraid not positively. Please check your facts before accusing someone of "backpedaling spin that would make a Clintonid proud". Like I said I do NOT lie/spin.

[BykrBayb]

I honor all our troops

That would include my son, and you damn sure don't honor my son with any of your statements. So if you plan to use that phrase again in the future, I request you add the following disclaimer: "Except BykrBayb's son." Thank you.

[hgro]

Bill Buckley is a genius in many ways but his opinion is still an opinion.

[BykrBayb]

That's also what Saddam insisted on in his country - - people who disagreed had to "shut the heck up."

Oh quit being overdramatic. Nobody's threatening to throw you into a chipper. It would be nice if you were smart enough and honorable enough to shut up instead of encouraging the enemy with your words. Your right to speak the way you do is safeguarded by the very people whose lives you're endangering by doing so. But don't let that stop you.

[SuziQ]

But reasonable people weren't opposed to WWII -- we were fighting two countries that had declared war on us first, one of which did a sneak attack.

Yeah, but folks could reasonably have argued that war with Japan was OK because they'd attacked us (Al Queda-Afghanistan), but there was no reason for us to go into Europe because Hitler had never attacked us (Sadaam Hussein-Iraq). When we declared war on Germany, we didn't even know about the Death Camps (Mass graves).

[ChinaThreat]

I sometimes wish Bush would have addressed the UN in the following manner:

"Ladies and Gentlemen. Some muslim assholes killed 3000 of our countrymen on 9/11/2001. The killed thousands and they still vow to kill more.

We sent our troops to Afhanastan and Iraq for simple reasons. To kick the #$$% out of the black turban wearing camelf@@#$s in Afghanastan and that sheep@#$% Osama. I was just kidding about the WMD and the links to Saddam, he just had it coming and he got what he deserved...courtesy of Uncle Sam.

We don't really care if you like it or not. We know that many of you and your governments are a bunch of chlymers. You want to be great, but youre not.

[turn gaze to DeVellipin].

We will not let you stand in our way. You can obstruct, but you will not halt, our might.

To those of you and your countries that encourage and harbor ill will....

[gase turns to Iranian delegation)

...and we know who you are...we want you to know that the mighty Eagle has cast her eye on you and is sharpening her talons. On 9/11/2001, we were the prey. Tomorrow, you become the prey.

We would like to thank our brothers, the British for standing fast with us. We are like brothers and have had our differences, but we are bonded in the bone. I would also like to thank our friends from eastern europe who understand the meaning of freedom because in a lifetime, they have seen the difference between tyranny and freedom. And to the Italians and all our coalition partners for extending themselves in the fight for freedom.

As for the rest of you. History will judge you as the cowards and hypocrites that you are. We dont have a beef with you but don't get in our way.

Thank you.

[ChinaThreat]

Precisely. Very good analysis.

[nopardons]

No,I doubt that either of them will be at the convention.

[CheneyChick]

You rule.

LOL, CC :)

[Urbane_Guerilla]

I idolize Bill Buckley.

But he has never been perfect in his pov. He is utterly wrong about this, as he has been on some other occasions.

People should watch the Firing Line debate between Buckley and Ronald Reagan about the Panama Canal. Reagan crushed Buckley flat.

Buckley was put back on his feet by Mark Green several times, and Buckley was strangely inadequate when he was in a round table on religion/rationalism a decade or so back.

Buckley is the most underrated historical person in the 20th century. I love the man.

But he is wrong, sometimes.

[BykrBayb]

Unlike you, I still want us to capture Osama...

Peach, I'm ashamed of you! I didn't realize you felt that way. Good thing churchillbluff pointed this out. And before you even TRY to refute it, we all know churchillbluff would never lie. If he says you don't want us to capture Osama, that's the gospel truth.

/sarcasm

[NordP]

Gosh, it was a while ago, THSR, and I think I saw the video on Fox, but I remember writing to PETA about it, telling them that if this wasn't enough to upset them enough to want Saddam out of power - then they were all talk and no action...just a political group with an agenda and NOT the protectors of animals as they say they are.

No answer from PETA about this. I guessed I was right. I still think back about when I saw this video for the first time. I got so mad, I wanted to sign up and fight that night!

[BykrBayb]

What was the date of Hillary storming onto the Senate floor waving the NY Times, "BUSH KNEW!"??

I googled it, and came with an article by NewsMax. http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2003/10/29/121859.shtml

• "Why [do] we know today, May 16, about the warning [Bush] received. Why did we not know this on April 16 or March 16 or February or January 16 or August 16 of last year?"
  

  But that's not when it started. Elsewhere in the article...

  
  
• As early as November 2001, for instance, when the rubble at Ground Zero was still smoldering, Sen. Clinton tried to blame the Bush tax cut for leaving America vulnerable to Osama bin Laden's kamikaze attacks.

[patriciaruth]

Somebody posted that the left wing wiped the net of all of the photos of Hillary waving the New York Post headline.

If anybody can retreive a copy of it, we'll be very grateful.

[Chgogal]

Hi. Thank you for your son's service. Please go to this sight. It is a very beautiful tribute our wonderful troops sent to us from one of our Freepers (kidkosmic1). You can do a search on "Tribute to our Troops". The address is as follows: http://www.interviewwithgod.com/july4

Enjoy! :-)

[patriciaruth]

My recollection is that the tape of the dogs being gassed was that it was an Al Qaeda tape, recovered in stuff from one of their Afghanistan houses.

[churchillbuff]

Hitler had never attacked us.

He declared war on the US a few days after Pearl Harbor