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Zarqawi group militants holding three Turks hostage in Iraq

Posted on 06/26/2004 10:22:08 AM PDT by kcvl

Claiming they will BEHEAD them.


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: hostages; iraq; sonsofbiches; turkey
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To: thoughtomator
While I favor Turkey in many ways, I have learned that the current government of Turkey is not to be trusted.

Trust in God, question all others!

Although at the time it was a malaise, the proverbial grip held to the groin of the US by the Turkish elite, didn't alter the course of the ousting of Saddam anyway.

101 posted on 06/26/2004 12:48:50 PM PDT by EGPWS
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To: a_Turk

Send me a bottle of Roki. It will go well with the Brazillian powdered coffee I'm trying to steam.


102 posted on 06/26/2004 12:49:01 PM PDT by BobS
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To: GretchenM; Destructor

That is merely Western Christian Crusader propaganda. Iran and Iraq did not fight each other in the 1980s, resulting in the deaths of over 1,100,000 Muslims!


103 posted on 06/26/2004 12:51:47 PM PDT by xrp
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To: kcvl

These poor souls are dead men. My prayers truly go out to their families and loved ones.


104 posted on 06/26/2004 12:53:06 PM PDT by jpl ("America's greatest chapter is still to be written, for the best is yet to come." - Ronald W. Reagan)
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To: a_Turk
The Kurdish leadership in Iraq protests to Turkish involvement there, even if it means to relieve some of your troops why?

Because my warrior nation has unequaled political will to see things through no matter what the hardship.

Read your reply again, a_turk, don't your statements appear somewhat conflicting?

105 posted on 06/26/2004 12:54:24 PM PDT by EGPWS
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To: superflu

Excellent post.

Whatever happened to Ochalan? Was this murder ever given capiatal punishment?


106 posted on 06/26/2004 12:57:34 PM PDT by PinC
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To: a_Turk

And AQ, Hezbollah, and other anti-US groups use Turk soil as well. I don't think what Kurds are doing in the US is sufficient reason to have the rest of the Americans, and all of humanity for that matter, exposed to catastrophic terrorism. Saddam wasn't worth the cost to Turkey of the refusal. In the context of the relationship between the bulk of our two peoples, this was a seminal moment in which Turkey could have truly demonstrate itself to be a reliable friend. But it didn't, and we have to live with that. Find the threads from that time, and read your own thoughts while watching it happen.


107 posted on 06/26/2004 12:57:37 PM PDT by thoughtomator (We need fewer suicide bombings and beheadings, and more suicide beheadings!)
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To: EGPWS

They thought they could win France's approval to enter the EU, and judged that to be more valuable than US friendship.


108 posted on 06/26/2004 12:59:09 PM PDT by thoughtomator (We need fewer suicide bombings and beheadings, and more suicide beheadings!)
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To: PinC

murder = murderer

capiatal = capital


109 posted on 06/26/2004 12:59:24 PM PDT by PinC
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To: kcvl
"The poll that I saw said that a majority of American thought it was the right thing to do to invade Iraq."

Every poll I've seen for over a year has consistantly shown a majority of Americans believe it was the right thing to do. What amazes me is that so few people ever point out the media's blatant bias in reporting it. Sure, they'll five 30 seconds to the nembers, then spend the next two weeks ranting about "doubts", "questions" and "dropping support" for the mission in Iraq.

110 posted on 06/26/2004 1:03:21 PM PDT by cake_crumb (UN Resolutions = Very Expensive, Very SCRATCHY Toilet Paper)
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To: FITZ; superflu

Turks, for the most part, believed in nature, mother earth, and the like. Similar to the Native American belief systems.

A word of friendly advice: The sooner you, fitz & friends (not you superflu), stop belittleing islam and muslims, the better off you will be. All you're doing is pissing me off along with I'm sure many many others who would otherwise have no reason to hate your prejudiced ignorant guts. So read my tag line and apply those virtues, even if only to avoid insulting the feeble minded who may as a direct result of your utterances go ape and cause more trouble where there already is more than enough at hand.

Not once have I spent a solitary bad word about Jesus or christianity, not that I am incapable. Try and remember the teachings of Jesus, specifically the golden rule.


111 posted on 06/26/2004 1:04:09 PM PDT by a_Turk (Temperance, Fortitude, Prudence, and Justice..)
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Uh...they'll give 30 seconds, not "five" 30 seconds.
112 posted on 06/26/2004 1:05:54 PM PDT by cake_crumb (UN Resolutions = Very Expensive, Very SCRATCHY Toilet Paper)
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To: EGPWS

No conflict unless you figger that there's benefit in pouring our troops in there to take a dump in our ally America's sandbox? That's just plain silly.

The Kurdish leadership know you can be trusted to change direction with the wind.


114 posted on 06/26/2004 1:09:55 PM PDT by a_Turk (Temperance, Fortitude, Prudence, and Justice..)
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To: superflu

I was stationed in Turkey for a while back in the early 1970s when I was in the U.S. Air Force. The Turks are good allies, and very, very proud. The reason they did not associate in the Iraq War was twofold: (1) The Kurdish issue; and (2) economics.


115 posted on 06/26/2004 1:09:56 PM PDT by ought-six
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To: McGavin999
Just goes to prove how stupid the terrorists are. They made a mistake when they infuriated the So. Koreans, and now they want to take on the Turks? DUMB MOVE!

They may want the Turks to move on the Iraqi Kurds.

116 posted on 06/26/2004 1:09:58 PM PDT by demlosers
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To: a_Turk
You know they're the "nuke 'em all" crowd and not worth getting into a sweat over.
117 posted on 06/26/2004 1:11:23 PM PDT by cake_crumb (UN Resolutions = Very Expensive, Very SCRATCHY Toilet Paper)
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To: ought-six
"The reason they did not associate in the Iraq War was twofold: (1) The Kurdish issue; and (2) economics"

(3) political inexperience, which to be fair they seem to be rectifying.

118 posted on 06/26/2004 1:14:36 PM PDT by cake_crumb (UN Resolutions = Very Expensive, Very SCRATCHY Toilet Paper)
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To: a_Turk
stop belittleing islam and muslims, the better off you will be.

Maybe when they stop beheading people yelling 'allah akbar' or suicide bombing innocent Israelis or flying airplanes into our buildings in the name of allah.

I'm all for it if some good Turkish people could redo the religion, maybe hijack it from the Arabs and edit the Koran so that those who don't start studying it become so filled with rage. It's a little easier following Jesus than it is following Mohammed who was not the same kind of man at all. The Bible is a collection of books with many writers, the Koran was written by that one self-proclaimed Arab prophet. It's not really possible to compare the two religions. I do know some nice enough people who call themselves Muslims and they seem not to hate Jews, they don't seem to believe in polygamy and I don't know if they follow the Koran or Mohammed. Mohammed himself was a violent man and did himself believe in murdering Jews because he did so.

120 posted on 06/26/2004 1:17:12 PM PDT by FITZ
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