[backhoe]

I've never seen the out and out lies so bad in my lifetime ... not during Vietnam, not during Watergate, not during Iran-Contra, Monica gate, whitewater gate, etc., etc. The level of hate was not this bad even during Nixon.

I see the same thing... it's gone from opposition based on sort of principles or facts to bark-at-the-moon lunacy based on hate, pure hate. I just hope the average voter can see it, too.
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[broadsword]

I guess that you two, like me, just don't know history, as the claim on this thread goes from one guy that it was far worse in older times.

Seriously, though, there has never been such an insane and hateful concerted onslaught against the president. I pray he makes it, but I fear for this next election. There are so many malinformed idiots out there.