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Films like 'Fahrenheit 9/11' are turning movie theaters into political stumping grounds
Houston Chronicle ^ | June 26, 2004 | ERIC HARRISON

Posted on 06/25/2004 11:37:33 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

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1 posted on 06/25/2004 11:37:35 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Films like 'Fahrenheit 9/11' are turning movie theaters into political stumping grounds

Good! Our word "idiot" comes from the ancient Greek word for a private person uninvolved in public affairs. The Greeks thought any free man who failed to interest himself in his own present and future was an idiot.

Let discussions in public affairs happen everywhere and revel in the discourse.

Only a coward or a fool is afraid to hear what the other side says - a coward because they are afraid they may be "turned" and a fool because they have no counter argument.

2 posted on 06/25/2004 11:48:10 PM PDT by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
The Republican Party is the party of Patriotism....

The Democrat Party is the party of "Hateriotism"

3 posted on 06/25/2004 11:49:00 PM PDT by MJY1288 (Our Troops swear to defend the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic, LOOKOUT DEMS)
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To: Destro; MJY1288

They can't compete in the talk radio arena because they have no ideas or logic. They're rely on lies, fantasy, and cut and paste.


4 posted on 06/25/2004 11:55:08 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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I agree with you about debate on public affairs, and the need for civil discourse, but allowing propaganda to hide behind the label of "Documentary" without confronting the basic fact that Michael Moore and his movie, hold absolutely no quarter in the real world.

Only a coward would allow a scumbag like Michael Moore and his propaganda to go unchallenged. A debate is based on a position one takes, based on facts.... Michael has great difficulty with facts

5 posted on 06/25/2004 11:58:51 PM PDT by MJY1288 (Our Troops swear to defend the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic, LOOKOUT DEMS)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Fox, the top ranked cable news network, has a conservative slant. The Daily Show, Jon Stewart's satirical news program on Comedy Central, is popular among young liberals. Conservative and liberal Internet users turn to openly biased sites such as the Drudge Report, TomPaine.com and Buzzflash.com.

Ah...anyone ever here of Free Republic???

And Drudge isn't biased. As a matter of fact, the most complete study of bias in the press found Drudge to be closest to the center, followed by FOXN and then ABCNEWS.
6 posted on 06/25/2004 11:59:41 PM PDT by swilhelm73
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To: swilhelm73

here = hear


7 posted on 06/26/2004 12:00:20 AM PDT by swilhelm73
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
I like this quote :
As the number and type of news sources grow and audiences become fragmented, the traditional goal of objectivity has been devalued. People increasingly seek their news from sources that match their ideology.

Yeah!!! Cause, like, before the internet everything was OBJECTIVE. Sure. Go get some more koolaid from the "there is no bias in the "main stream" media" stand.

8 posted on 06/26/2004 12:03:54 AM PDT by NotQuiteCricket
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"It would be a healthy thing for Rush Limbaugh's audience to go to Michael Moore's movie and for Michael Moore's audience to listen to Bill O'Reilly."

Bill O'Reilly??

9 posted on 06/26/2004 12:05:24 AM PDT by Yaelle
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To: swilhelm73; NotQuiteCricket

They're going to pull out every stop on this.

It's going to be down and dirty - this is a fight to the finish.


10 posted on 06/26/2004 12:07:44 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: MJY1288
When did "Documentary" take on this objectivity meaning you ascribe? Documenatries have always been advocacy pieces. We had an excellent Right wing one about the Waco massacre a few years ago - award winning "documentary". Documentaries come in all forms and for many purposes and need not be and in fact fail if they are objective.

If Moore is challened by the fact we can easily make a movie on how Bush is the oppossite of how Moore portrays him.

11 posted on 06/26/2004 12:08:22 AM PDT by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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To: Yaelle
They're trying to make anything that isn't blatantly pro-Kerry suspect.
12 posted on 06/26/2004 12:08:37 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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They're rely on lies, fantasy, and cut and paste.

Not to mention "special-effects" and "groovy soundtracks." They can't get their ideas to float on their own merits, so they have to resort to grafting it on to something more appetizing, like say mass entertainment. God forbid they simply state their opinions in as boring a medium as possible, people might actually look at it critically.

13 posted on 06/26/2004 12:09:15 AM PDT by Pelayo
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To: Yaelle

Well hey, he won't drink the leftist koolaide, which in the leftist mind more then accounts for the fact that O'Reilly's views cut pretty much straight down the American center.


14 posted on 06/26/2004 12:11:19 AM PDT by swilhelm73
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To: Pelayo

"God forbid they simply state their opinions in as boring a medium as possible, people might actually look at it critically."

You aren't supposed to be critical of liberal work, because it hurts their feeeeeeeelings. You are supposed to "play nice" and say only good things. They can't help it if they can't put together an honest, complete thought, cause their brains are wired all wrong.


15 posted on 06/26/2004 12:13:32 AM PDT by NotQuiteCricket
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Seems like we're making the same mistake with this film as the left made with The Passion... Giving it all kinds of free publicity.

I figure just ignore it. Let the leftists see it and squeal to each other in their little echo chamber. We only help their cause by going along with the "controversy"..


16 posted on 06/26/2004 12:20:00 AM PDT by ambrose ("Wearing Religion on Your Sleeve," DemoRat Style: http://tinyurl.com/yvvmz)
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Filmmaker John Sayles' new Silver City offers an unflattering portrait of a Republican gubernatorial candidate who resembles Bush.

My brother moved into an apartment in Hoboken that used to belong to John Sayles.

One day, my brother got a beautiful invitation in the mail. He neglected to read the addressee before opening it (yeah right) and turns out it was from Martin Scorcese, of all people!

It was an invitation to a screening and party in Manhattan celebrating Scorcese's rerelease of the restored version of Charlton Heston and Sophia Loren's classic "El Cid."

So, after the initial brouhaha at the door over the fact that my brother and I were not John Sayles and guest, we found ourselves in a sweet little party.

My brother and I sat one row in front of, and six or seven seats to the left of Mr. Heston and Ms. Loren. You could watch them on the screen, thirty or so years younger, or you could turn around and watch them watching themselves.

Plus, we got to drink for free after the show with the stars and a bunch of celebrities like Scorsece and John Turturro and Marissa Tomei.

This is not very relevant to the thread, but it was just cool that we were at a super exclusive Charlton Heston event on that Marxist John Sayles name. It was a good time.

17 posted on 06/26/2004 12:20:34 AM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: NotQuiteCricket

From the late 40s to the early 60s the real differences between the American left and right were fairly small.

As such, the press could claim objectivity while in reality it reported with a strong bias because said bias was shared through out most of America.

In the late 60s that began to change as the "New" Left took over the old anti-communist, traditionalist Left.

The press joined up with the New Left early, and changed their broadcasting bias to reflect their new ideology.

As this bias drifted ever further from the American norm, people began to notice its Leftist tint.

The press then claimed that just like those before them they were being "objective". This was partially a lie to take some of the heat off, and partially a poor understanding of history of the sort that is so endemic to the Left.

They continue to parrot this line primarily because they need to control the press. WIthout a powerful propaganda machine the Left knows it is in deep trouble in America - as Moore's comments on Americans, for example, indicates.


18 posted on 06/26/2004 12:22:14 AM PDT by swilhelm73
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

FATSO is laughing all the way to the bank.


19 posted on 06/26/2004 12:22:38 AM PDT by Finalapproach29er (" Permitting homosexuality didn't work out very well for the Roman Empire")
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To: dead

I'm a bit surprised about Hollywierdos throwing a party around the movie El Cid. Spanish crusader in the Reconquest of Spain right?


20 posted on 06/26/2004 12:25:15 AM PDT by swilhelm73
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