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S Korean Hostage Dead [Warning- Graphic Photos Included]
Fox NEws Channel ^ | 22 June 2004 | FNC

Posted on 06/22/2004 9:47:27 AM PDT by Maigrey

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To: happygrl
I am mature enough and steady-willed enough to allow some time for this venture to mature.

What a wonderful post your #856 was to read first thing after I got into FR this morning. I'm always aware of the fact that many more pairs of eyes read threads than actively respond on them. When someone as articulate and well-reasoned as you decides to join the debate, it means a great deal.

861 posted on 06/23/2004 9:56:09 AM PDT by Wolfstar (Next great battle in our war against Islamofacism? Here at home, 11/02/04. We can't afford to lose.)
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To: Tatze
Thank you for that info. I, too, have been thinking of him constantly, and wondering what his status and state is.

Prayers for Pfc. Keith "Matthew" Maupin.

862 posted on 06/23/2004 9:59:38 AM PDT by happygrl
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To: Alberta's Child
Of course he was not lying.

He didn't think that was what circumstances required.

But circumstances changed on 9-11.

863 posted on 06/23/2004 10:04:36 AM PDT by happygrl
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To: Wolfstar

Thannk you. I always find your posts well reasoned.


864 posted on 06/23/2004 10:05:48 AM PDT by happygrl
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To: Neenah

Re your post #825, thank you so much. Winning this war is going to take the kind of patience and quiet backbone that, judging by some of the comments on this thread, many of us Americans sorely lack. The good news, however, is that many of us do. I just hope those folks are the majority who go to the polls come November 2.


865 posted on 06/23/2004 10:05:57 AM PDT by Wolfstar (Next great battle in our war against Islamofacism? Here at home, 11/02/04. We can't afford to lose.)
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To: happygrl
But circumstances changed on 9-11.

Let's stop with that silly, tired old crap. The upper ranks of the U.S. Department of Defense under the Bush administration -- long before 9/11 -- were filled with people who had been publicly advocating a U.S. military campaign in Iraq for years. They were not terrorism experts, they were not specialists in Cold War diplomacy, or relations between India and Pakistan, or in the dynamics of Latin America or sub-Saharan Africa. They were policy wonks who specialized in Middle Eastern affairs specifically with regard to U.S. military intervention for the purpose of "nation-building." That's exactly why they were there.

September 11th simply provided the Bush administration with the political support it needed to do something it had every intention of doing anyway.

866 posted on 06/23/2004 10:12:35 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Ego numquam pronunciare mendacium . . . sed ego sum homo indomitus")
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To: Alberta's Child

Things in Iraq are heading in the right direction. All the hand wringing from leftists only feeds their constituency. Real patriots and men with backbone realize that this is not going to be won overnight. War is brutal, ugly and takes time. Patience and cool heads are what is required.


867 posted on 06/23/2004 10:18:10 AM PDT by O.C. - Old Cracker (When the cracker gets old, you wind up with Old Cracker. - O.C.)
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To: saquin

Cowards is how I would describe someone so afraid of being recognized that they hide their faces with table linens.

Scared is how I would describe someone needing three heavily armed men to guard a bound and blindfolded civilian.

Sick is how I describe the dismemberment of a defensless victim.

868 posted on 06/23/2004 10:35:06 AM PDT by fso301
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To: blackbart.223

Knucklehead. I guess this goes along with the "panty wastes" that worried about hijacked jetliners being used as flying bombs before 9/11 -- oh, woops, that might have ENCOURAGED them to actually to do it -- WAIT -- they actually DID IT ANYWAY...

Ignoramus.


869 posted on 06/23/2004 10:53:45 AM PDT by Rutles4Ever
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To: Alberta's Child
The upper ranks of the U.S. Department of Defense under the Bush administration -- long before 9/11 -- were filled with people who had been publicly advocating a U.S. military campaign in Iraq for years.

So what ?

The advocacy for "regime change" started with Clinton. The Pentagon is a bureaucracy filled with various points of view.

Those holding this view [regime change] got a hearing after 9-11, and this policy was implemented.

870 posted on 06/23/2004 11:06:24 AM PDT by happygrl
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To: happygrl
Do some research on the Defense Policy Board, a group of civilian advisors that was implemented under the Bush administration. These people were nothing more than policy analysts who had vested interests outside the U.S. government in calling for military intervention in Iraq.
871 posted on 06/23/2004 11:10:37 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Ego numquam pronunciare mendacium . . . sed ego sum homo indomitus")
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To: r9etb

Are you a moderate?


872 posted on 06/23/2004 12:52:37 PM PDT by ApesForEvolution (I DO NOT BRAKE FOR MOHOMOCOWARDENS)
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To: Alberta's Child

So how's Michael Moore?


873 posted on 06/23/2004 12:53:36 PM PDT by ApesForEvolution (I DO NOT BRAKE FOR MOHOMOCOWARDENS)
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To: fso301

Yeah, we should simply put a bullet in the head of the enemy. Much more humane IMO.


874 posted on 06/23/2004 12:55:08 PM PDT by ApesForEvolution (I DO NOT BRAKE FOR MOHOMOCOWARDENS)
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To: ApesForEvolution

No. I'm a conservative.


875 posted on 06/23/2004 1:01:22 PM PDT by r9etb
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To: ApesForEvolution

Huh?


876 posted on 06/23/2004 1:10:05 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Ego numquam pronunciare mendacium . . . sed ego sum homo indomitus")
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To: r9etb

What flavor?


877 posted on 06/23/2004 1:14:44 PM PDT by ApesForEvolution (I DO NOT BRAKE FOR MOHOMOCOWARDENS)
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To: Alberta's Child

Oh, nothing. I thought you said something that I heard someone say the other day in defense of their anti-war stance.


878 posted on 06/23/2004 1:17:45 PM PDT by ApesForEvolution (PLEASE EMAIL THE REALLY CLARIFIED CONSERVATIVE GOOD STUFF TO UR ELECTED REPS SO THEY KNOW HOW U FEEL)
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To: ApesForEvolution

What "flavor?" Hell, I don't know. It's probably not Cranberry-Grape, though.


879 posted on 06/23/2004 1:22:29 PM PDT by r9etb
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To: Lady Heron

"There are none! They are polar opposites. Try studying it for yourself to see."

Sorry hon but I already have 30 years into it. Perhaps you should practice what you preach. Oh that's right Christians typically don't do that do they?


880 posted on 06/23/2004 3:30:12 PM PDT by Kerberos (Groups are inherently more immoral than individuals.)
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