S Korean Hostage Dead [Warning- Graphic Photos Included]

Fox NEws Channel ^ | 22 June 2004 | FNC

[Maigrey]

Breaking from Al Jazeera.

[roses of sharon]

The majority of the American public are pacifists.

They have been for the last 40 years, the leftists in NY, Hollywood, the world-wide press, and academia, have made sure of it.

It is a slow-death now, very slow, and most will not even realize it. (because you-know-who is in charge of
perceptions, facts, history, context, moods, and elections)

Bush has done as much as humanly possible, he cannot compete with enemy propaganda, which is why he went to Iraq so soon after Afganastan, he knows the public is weak and soft.

But Americans under a Kerry/UN/Soros ticket can go back to their Oprah and Blockbuster videos!

[IDontLikeToPayTaxes]

Foxnews reported that his body was booby-trapped with explosives.

[BriarBey]

I must not -- for the life of me I cannot "get" why you folks are so hot to act like nazis. Especially when doing so would do far more harm than good.


Nazi? excuse me...but I seem to remember 2 planes hitting 2 big buildings and killing 3000 of OUR people. They attacked us. I don't seem to remember US trying to take over a whole continent to build OUR lands. Do you really think if you send them milk and cookies and play patty cake with them they will say...OK..we'll be nice now. They HATE your guts, you will not change that by playing nice. They have been out to kill US from the beginning. YOU could very well be sitting with your family in front of 5 of them and watching them behead...YOUR children, would you still be willing to play nice? I don't think so. These innocent men they have beheaded were someones children just not yours. I think the minute they handed you one of your loved ones head on a platter, you would be willing to push the red button too.

[stevie_d_64]

So I guess your plan would be to run out and find the nearest Al-Quida terrorist...

Throw our collective (see I am using the socialist jargon...hehehe) arms around them and say...

sorry...

We love you, and want to make sure your happy...Please don't hurt us anymore...We want to love our differences away...And accept your ways as our own...

I nominate you for that mission...If you succeed...then I'm all for it...

Later,
Steve

[ZULU]

That's even better!!

Some great ideas here for dealing with these thugs.

[Wurlitzer]

"My response: "I don't recall seeing to many Jewish home videos of beheaded Nazis"

Good response too bad they could not stand solid logic and booted you off the server.

[FITZ]

What is to stop them from starting the kidnapping and beheading on our own soil? We know they are here. How hard would it be to grab a family?

Nothing stops that from happening.

[Wolfstar]

Public opinion is a battleground, one strategically valuable ground, worth fighting for. The Bush team doesn't seem to think so.

I agree with you on this point. This actually is a problem or tendency that goes back to the earliest days of the administration. It seemed to have been resolved in the rush of events afte 9/11, but in retrospect, it seems rather to have been temporarily submerged. The fact of the matter is that this White House's public relations efforts leave a very great deal to be desired.

Karl Rove is a political operative, not a PR guy. I wish the president would bring in a strong PR person to lead that part of their overall communications effort.

[r9etb]

Godwin's law. You lose.

Godwin's Law states that, "As a Usenet discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches one.... There is a tradition in many groups that, once this occurs, that thread is over, and whoever mentioned the Nazis has automatically lost whatever argument was in progress."

It's not a "law," btw, just an observation that when one invokes charges of "nazi" in an unjustified manner, the argument is essentially over.

Unfortunately for you and yours, the charge ("nazi-like") is exact and correct in this case. Folks herein are proposing to duplicate the nazi atrocity at Lidice -- they are recommending that we flatten towns and kill all the inhabitants in retaliation for terrorist killings. In addition to the proposed acts themselves, the "retaliation" angle is precisely the same justification used by the nazis.

Acting like a nazi is a bad thing, GW. Even if it's allegedly for a "good cause."

[Ditter]

Yes indeed, the pig blood idea is good. Lets do it!

[clamper1797]

These animals sure are brave with defenseless women and she-men

[BriarBey]

And again you stand up to the law. And do so by further envoking it with calling of nazi behavior. Sheesh.


Like I said in a previous post....wait till someone hands him the head of one of his loved ones, then lets hear what tune he sings. All the while thinking....if we had just done something sooner...I wouldn't be holding this head!!!

[stevie_d_64]

Opps...Post number 712...

"I must not -- for the life of me I cannot "get" why you folks are so hot to act like nazis. Especially when doing so would do far more harm than good."

You said it first...Those are your words...Not anyone elses...

I guess it must be ALL about you...Right???

So...I am curious...

What does all of this make you???

How would you define yourself???

Later,
Steve

[BriarBey]

What is to stop them from starting the kidnapping and beheading on our own soil? We know they are here. How hard would it be to grab a family?
Nothing stops that from happening.


Seriously thinking about taking a concealed weapons course.
I'm not in a high risk area but just thinking I might miss the opportunity to blow the brains out of one of these bast**ds is more than I can stand.

[Nowhere Man]

Myself, I don't think we need to use nukes as some have suggested at this point in time but if we keep on trying to be PC in fighting this war against terrorism as well as the self flagellation we are giving ourselves with these stupid committees, we might have to result to such extreme measures in the future. Alternately, if we have another 9-11 or worse, I can foresee such extreme measures being taken. I mean if it came down to them or us for survival, then yes, we will have to use such weapons. Still, I think the optimum strategy is to put more boots on the ground, let the generals run the war, and gut the cities out like "a dead fish" of these terrorist vermin.

I thank God for Fox News, at least they show the good that is happening in Iraq and the children and people thanking us. If I didn't see that and only saw the negative stuff being spewed from the liberal news media, I would be one of those ones that would say, "nuke 'em all." So I do thank God for sources like Fox News for helping me see some positive sides to this. Still, I wonder if this will last.

We are in an epic struggle, in some ways like the struggle in World War II and the later cold War, but it is different too. The trouble is that unlike the Cold War, you have people that are willing to die to take out the Western World. If they got a hold of any ABC (Atomic, Bacteriological, Chemical) weapons they wouldn't stop at nothing to set it off in one of our cities. If that would happen, like I said above, I think all stops would be pulled out and unfortunately, innocents will be hurt or killed, but if our survival is at stake, well, we will have to suck it up. I hope this will never happen, but I'm scared that it will at some point.

Islam itself, there are times I feel that it is a "death cult" where people need to be re-educated and redeemed that way, other days, I think it is only the Wahabists perverting it. I'm a bit divided here, I guess it depends on how I feel that day. Well, all I know is that Islam does need some form of reformation much like the Jews and Christians went through. At one time, the Islamic world was the bastion of scientific and medical technology while the people in the West were grunting in caves. Now it is the other way around. They really have very little, they have to resort to using our own technology against us as we have seen on 9-11.

When I heard about the beheading of that South Korean, my heart sank. I really send out my hearts and prayers to him, his family, and South Korea.

We do need to get cracking on this and fighting this like a war should be and just ignore the liberal detractors we see. People like Michael Moore, to me, they are just as a part of Al Qaida as bin Ladin is, as the saying goes, "if you're not for it, you're against it." I think President Bush is doing the best as he can, but I think even he has to start acting a bit tougher. Trouble is, the alternative we have is John Freakin' Kerry who is a true wimp.

I hope you don't mine me posting the lyrics to the "Battle Hymn of the Republic," but I feel I have to, it seems like it is appropriate for the times we are in:

Battle Hymn of the Republic

Julia Ward Howe

Mine eyes have seen the glory of the coming of the Lord He is trampling out the vintage where the grapes of wrath are stored, He has loosed the fateful lightening of His terrible swift sword His truth is marching on.

Glory! Glory! Hallelujah! Glory! Glory! Hallelujah! Glory! Glory! Hallelujah! His truth is marching on.

I have seen Him in the watch-fires of a hundred circling camps They have builded Him an altar in the evening dews and damps I can read His righteous sentence by the dim and flaring lamps His day is marching on.

Glory! Glory! Hallelujah! Glory! Glory! Hallelujah! Glory! Glory! Hallelujah! His truth is marching on.

I have read a fiery gospel writ in burnish`d rows of steel, "As ye deal with my contemners, So with you my grace shall deal;" Let the Hero, born of woman, crush the serpent with his heel Since God is marching on.

Glory! Glory! Hallelujah! Glory! Glory! Hallelujah! Glory! Glory! Hallelujah! His truth is marching on.

He has sounded forth the trumpet that shall never call retreat He is sifting out the hearts of men before His judgment-seat Oh, be swift, my soul, to answer Him! be jubilant, my feet! Our God is marching on.

Glory! Glory! Hallelujah! Glory! Glory! Hallelujah! Glory! Glory! Hallelujah! His truth is marching on.

In the beauty of the lilies Christ was born across the sea, With a glory in His bosom that transfigures you and me: As He died to make men holy, let us die to make men free, While God is marching on.

Glory! Glory! Hallelujah! Glory! Glory! Hallelujah! Glory! Glory! Hallelujah! His truth is marching on.

[stevie_d_64]

I'm with you on that course...

But r9etb might think that as too Nazi-ish a response...

Later,
Steve

[LadyPilgrim]

I don't know what's wrong, but I still can't view the photos.
Any suggestions?
I have been able to view others.