Posted on 06/21/2004 10:19:15 PM PDT by JohnHuang2
Don't sweat the little punky pukes.
That vote test is one of the more despicable things around.
Little numbnuts.
But private voting is also on the way out. Databases like People locators on blueberrys hooked up to voting machines means voting lists that'll display your vote aren't too far off.
After all, if you don't have anything to hide......
You are one of the very first people Bush should force-screen for mental illness.Is this a new proposal that has been put forth by the Executive branch?
Gee, a clear reading of the authoratative material close to this subject reveals that this program, as proposed by a research/planning group/board has as its interest young school age children who exhibit behavioral problems on into puberty and then adulthood ...
Are you making yet another 'stretch' of the actual, bonafide, observable and penned truth in order to hyperbolicly arrive at some sort of 'argument' again?
I take it you've never worked (or visited for a period of time) at a so-called 'mental institution'; an institution where some number of today's mentally ill - sometimes treatable - are usually 'wharehoused'; and this long-range planning proposal seeks as its goal the return of these people to society/the community - with appropriate medicine/medical care AS OPPOSED TO virtual incarceration at a STATE HOSPITAL for the remainer of their lives here on earth.
See, I worked my way through school working at one of these kinds of institutions; I have more than just an "outsider's knowledge" of the conditions, the practices/what 'goes on' there ...
Sigh...yes I read that and I don't want to spend another day debating this. 1) Those are recommendations TO the President. 2) I have yet to have anyone SHOW ME where the document specifically says screening is for EVERYONE and not just at risk populations. 3) I have yet to see where the President has ACCEPTED these recommendations. 4) I have yet to see where the President OR The White House has said screening for EVERYONE.
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Believe what you have need to. But please don't ping me again.
Thank you.
But before I go and you (or others) accuse me of running or conceding, the White House site report specifally addresses persons with disabilities. I don't know if the term "at risk" is used, but people with disabilities is.
I could be wrong. I hope I'm not. But I just don't see what BMJ and WND are saying.
That's all, and I'm done here.
Believe what you have need to. But please don't ping me again. Thank you.
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But before I go and you (or others) accuse me of running or conceding, the White House site report specifally addresses persons with disabilities. I don't know if the term "at risk" is used, but people with disabilities is.
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No, I read the links. And as far as I'm concerned, the point I have made still stands.
If I am later proven wrong, I will admit it. But I really don't want to spend more time on this today.
I'm just pointing out that while the intention may be well and good, the implementation - through the government - is a recipe for abuse. Brain chemistry should not be subject to politics, nor regulated by law.
I'm glad you don't hate me. You're really a pretty nice guy.
I sincerely apologized for calling you a name and I stand by that apology. The apology does not mean that I cannot state facts and joke around with others. It is true you only listen to yourself and your own opinions. You are self-absorbed and hysterical. There isn't one thing I wrote, after I made my apology, that wasn't obvious truth to most folks on this thread. You wrote and continue to write like you are 10 years old and in need a mommy's dicipline. You have a real problem with trying to manipulate others. You are as Satan himself trying to conjure up some kind of guilt in me because of a few cracks I made with others. Sorry pal, it ain't gonna happen. How corrupt and feeble of you!
Obviously you are deluded into thinking that you contribute something of value around here when the fact is you are divisive and ill-informed.
Go back and read some of the arrogant, childish, and self-righteous things you wrote to others.
Take the plank out of your own eye before trying to remove the speck out of mine.
I am finished having any further discussions with you. You just are not worth my time or effort.
Once testing positive for "mental health" problem means that the school gets extra money for treatment (and this is already the case), then "parental consent" will only be given lip service
I very much believe that there are people in the education system who are so politically committed to the Left, that they would stoop to destroying a bright Conservative kid that shows signs of growing up to be a societal leader. The majority would not -- but how many school system personnel will your kid come into contact with over the course of 12-13 years of public education? It only takes one
However the Federal Government via the power and authority granted it has NO authority to be involved in these health issues of the general public. Being a law-abiding and respecting person threfore what you are asking for is a Constitutional Amendment that would authorize the Federal Government to "provide for health care to every citizen". . Right?
If not, why then you favor tyranny. A friendly tyrrany -- bua an unaccountable one, restrained by nothing, able to do what it pleases.
Thank you kindly.
I'm sure he'll find some way to spend even more money that the government doesn't have...
One issue may indeed be trivial, but over the past 3.5 years, a lot of issues have accumulated. If you're a Bush campaigner, you have your work cut out for you.
As nice-sounding and well-intended as this program may be, the Constitution does not authorize any branch of the federal government to take up this issue. Properly medicated mentally-ill people are indeed better able to function in a free society, so maybe Congress could take the power to manage one's mental state up as a Constitutional amendment. However, I'm sure the states are aware of this problem, so I'm not sure that there's even a need for that.
You may be right about the level of disaffection among the right (a group among whom I certainly number myself). But a month ago, in the middle of an even worse period for the president, I asked one of my Republican clubs to join me in the following pledge: Not to say anything negative about President Bush, his policies, or his prospects for re-election until after Nov. 2. While I haven't kept to this pledge perfectly, I have honored its spirit as best I can: that I will not contribute to the giant sucking sound of contempt for Bush. The left has made it large enough; I don't want to make it larger.
You are absolutely right that "a lot of issues have accumulated." Breaking my promise very briefly for the sake of private discussion, I'll admit that Bush is a weak and poor representative or promoter of the conservative philosophy. Indeed, I doubt that he really understands it.
That said, I do think that Bush's integrity, his manifest patriotism, and his willing to stick with a politically risky course of action in the War on Terror (i.e., overthrowing Saddam and maintaining troops there while the bad guys remain a threat) will eventually lead the necessary 90 percent of Republicans to vote for him. If they do, we'll all have escaped what would be the nightmare of a Kerry presidency -- under which even more "issues would accumulate," as I'm sure you agree.
If Kerry does win, I suspect that it won't be long before you wish that you, too, were a "Bush campaigner."
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