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To: dangus
You start with the presumption that there was no charge that could ever merit death then?

No, I do not.

Without the inquisition, the accused were usally killed. With the inquiisition, 99% of them are spared. That's pretty amazing actually.

The only thing that would convince me a 99% survival rate is good, would be New Testament justification for one execution for the sin/crime of heresy.

What he is saying is that the Inquisition was a remarkable leap forward in justice, which demonstrates a respect for life.

The black death was part of his point, which you seem to have dropped, when I think it's a key to the point he was attempting to make. Include the black death & I find myself thinking he's steering modern minds to a conclusion. Do you need me to spell it out?

>> When did it stop being about the universal truth?<<

When Protestants decided that that they could have 15,478,386 opinions on any moral standard, and they were all okay, as long as they disagreed with Catholic tradition.

Tsk, tsk.

>> IMO, this is just as true now as it was then. <<

Well, your flat out wrong then. OUR society is built on religious pluralism and secualr standards of law, and loyalty. There are very few institutions which rely *directly* on religion in America.

We seem to define "fabric of a community" differently. What do you think allowed/allows us to build community as you described?

234 posted on 06/19/2004 2:18:19 PM PDT by GoLightly
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To: GoLightly

>> The only thing that would convince me a 99% survival rate is good, would be New Testament justification for one execution for the sin/crime of heresy.<<

I can't find a new testament justification for death sentences for sedition, treason, terrorism, etc., either. Did you ever think that 99% of the heretics were NOT killed that maybe the 1% that were were involved in something along the lines of sedition, treason, incitement to riot, etc.?


242 posted on 06/19/2004 3:18:01 PM PDT by dangus
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