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The Real Inquisition: Investigating the popular myth.
National Review Online ^ | June 18, 2004 | Thomas F. Madden

Posted on 06/18/2004 9:55:45 AM PDT by xsysmgr

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1 posted on 06/18/2004 9:55:46 AM PDT by xsysmgr
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To: razorbak
Its most startling conclusion is that the Inquisition was not so bad after all.

Nope, not so bad at all. And Hitler just had an off day.

2 posted on 06/18/2004 9:58:23 AM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: xsysmgr

Just read this. Wonder if it will get a bite from the Catholic bashers.


3 posted on 06/18/2004 9:59:12 AM PDT by RobbyS
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4 posted on 06/18/2004 9:59:50 AM PDT by farmfriend ( In Essentials, Unity...In Non-Essentials, Liberty...In All Things, Charity.)
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To: RedBloodedAmerican

Don't let the facts get in your way. Keep making smart ass remarks.


5 posted on 06/18/2004 10:00:19 AM PDT by RobbyS
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To: xsysmgr

Good article. I have saved it.


6 posted on 06/18/2004 10:00:53 AM PDT by sauropod (Which would you prefer? "Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" or "I did not have sex with that woman?)
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To: xsysmgr
The invention of the printing press scared the hell out of the Catholic church. The church was no longer the only source of spiritual information for the people.

As a result, the inquisition was invented to insure that the people were obeying the teachings of the Catholic Church and were not being contaminated by reading the actual scriptures.

This is a sad part of your history.

7 posted on 06/18/2004 10:01:25 AM PDT by Hunble
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To: RobbyS
Wonder if it will get a bite from the Catholic bashers

LOL! Maybe that's what we'll rename the Inquisition!

"Catholic Bashers" (since they went around bashing heads, etc)

Gives it a whole new meaning, doesn't it?

So....I guess the Catholic Bashers have shown up, eh?

8 posted on 06/18/2004 10:03:28 AM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: Hunble

Did you even bother to read the article? I thought not. The printing press was not invented until the 1450s and the Inquisition in Spain was all about Judaephobia, not suppression of heretical tracts.


9 posted on 06/18/2004 10:04:01 AM PDT by RobbyS
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To: xsysmgr

Not so bad??? LOL a bit of denial there I think


10 posted on 06/18/2004 10:04:17 AM PDT by cyborg
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To: RobbyS
not suppression of heretical tracts

Jack Chick must be what....450 years old?

11 posted on 06/18/2004 10:05:16 AM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: RedBloodedAmerican

As I suggested if the facts get in the way of your prejudices, just run them over.


12 posted on 06/18/2004 10:05:46 AM PDT by RobbyS
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"Compared to other medieval secular courts, the Inquisition was positively enlightened."

Maybe, but that doesn't change the fact that the focus was to force people to believe very specific things. If nothing else, I hope they learned that you can't force someone to believe something. You can only force them to pretend they believe.

13 posted on 06/18/2004 10:07:07 AM PDT by MEGoody (Kerry - isn't that a girl's name? (Conan O'Brian))
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To: RobbyS

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14 posted on 06/18/2004 10:09:59 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (I want to die in my sleep like Gramps -- not yelling and screaming like those in his car)
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To: xsysmgr
The Spanish defeated Protestant armies on the battlefield? Where? As I recall, the Spanish attempt to invade England ended rather badly, and Spain was never the same afterward.

Also, he fails to point out that the primary reason for establishing the Spanish Inquisition was to hunt out Jews who had converted to Christianity *under duress* and were still secretly practicing Judaism, and that the Spanish Inquisition was at one point condemned by Rome for its brutality.

15 posted on 06/18/2004 10:11:12 AM PDT by valkyrieanne
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To: RedBloodedAmerican

Did you know that when Gutenburg published his first Bible that there were already perhaps 10,000 Paris Bibles in circulation? These were small enough to slip into your pocket and were the first--ever-- to include all the books of the Bible in a handy form. It was a Latin Bible, but that meant that every literate person in Europe had direct access to all the Scriptures. This was true for the first time in history.


16 posted on 06/18/2004 10:16:11 AM PDT by RobbyS
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To: Hunble
The invention of the printing press scared the hell out of the Catholic church. The church was no longer the only source of spiritual information for the people.

More revisionist crapola. Gutenberg received most of his financing from the Catholic Church and the first book he printed was the Bible.

Mommy and daddy didn't make the mistake of paying for that rotten education you got, did they?

17 posted on 06/18/2004 10:17:52 AM PDT by A.A. Cunningham
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To: RobbyS
As I suggested if the facts get in the way of your prejudices, just run them over.

How many people would OJ Simpson have to kill to be guilty of murder?

Answer:  More than two, obviously.

How many people must the Inquisition put to death to be an unforgiveable atrocity?

Answer:  The heretics were put to death by merciful religious people, thus saving them from being put to death by those awful secularists.  It isn't the quantity of death, so much as the quality the redeems.
18 posted on 06/18/2004 10:21:05 AM PDT by gcruse (http://gcruse.typepad.com/)
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To: xsysmgr
Thank you for posting this.  Excellent and enlightening article.
 

Owl_Eagle

" WAR IS PEACE
FREEDOM IS SLAVERY
DIVERSITY IS STRENGTH"


19 posted on 06/18/2004 10:21:16 AM PDT by End Times Sentinel (Meat, it's what you're made of.)
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To: RobbyS
I have read the article and understand what you are talking about. I love to study history and have done so for well 30 years now.

As a member of the Wicca religion, I often hear about the Inquisition and it's torture of Witches. Nothing could be farther from the truth.

This was not an issue about Witches, but a political effort to insure that the Catholic Church remained in control of the people.

Yes, as you just stated, prior to the invention of the printing press, many people started questioning what was being taught by the "official" Catholic Church. As a result of these questions, the Inquisition was created.

Once the printing press was invented, it became a crisis for the Catholic Church.

No longer were they the only people with the books and knowledge about God and Jesus. To their horror, anyone was able to read the actual words, if they had the education to read Latin.

Spain was at the focus of this religious battle. Not only would the ability to read the actual words of the Bible create problems, but it would place the authority of the King in question.

Remember, at that time, all Kings were authorized by God to rule their countries.

To question the what God had told the people, by reading the actual words in the Bible, was a very real danger to their authority to rule. This would be treason.

Like you, I did find this article most interesting and will consider it as valid data.

20 posted on 06/18/2004 10:21:21 AM PDT by Hunble
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